sean_stw Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I'm looking to get into open with a 2011 and was wondering what issues are there with getting 9mm to run reliably or things to watch out for? Like extraction/ejection, feeding/mag issues, do you have to pay closer attention to your brass things like that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach1soldier Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Nothing majorly different then 38 super or SC. 9mm major is higher pressure so just pay attention to the brass more. 9mm once fired is crazy cheap. So that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr88 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 No issues with 3 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Most run range brass. Sort out the off brand headstamps most run an aftec extractor, if u run a full size c-more put it on a 90 degree mount or run a mini reflex sight so your ejection path is clear, change your recoil spring often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rader1812 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 No issues at allSent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcity Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Biggest problem is powder spillage on an indexing press with how full the 9mm case is. If you are using a 650 or 1050 consider some after market parts to smooth the press out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_stw Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 I've heard 9mm has some issues with ejecting especially if your using a standard optic mount not a 90 degree but what is the real issues extractor, ejector, both or other issues? I've also heard some issues with mags like feeding issues and bullets in the mags getting jamed. do you have to pay careful attention to mags, are there betters mags and guts then others that have less issues and need less maintenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) And, on a 650, place the bullet at station 3 instead of 4. That seals the case off so it doesn't spill when the pawl "pops" on the upstroke. Helpful for 3n38. Edited August 24, 2018 by teros135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Dillon sent me the 900 shot gun index block. It’s longer an when u get the snap of index ring u dang near in the sizing die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I have 2 9mm only had to have to ejector tunes as I run mixed head stamp brass. Other than that, no mag or ammo issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 No issues. Run mixed range brass (no stepped brass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 hours ago, sean_stw said: I've heard 9mm has some issues with ejecting especially if your using a standard optic mount Both my TruBors, with standard C-Mores, run 100% until they need new springs (every 3,000 rounds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncman Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I built my own 9Major 2011. Had a lot of problems till I got the ejector and extractor right. I do NOT run a 90 degree mount, but it is offset. I had problems with STI Gen 2 170mm mags and now run MBX. The 140 Gen 2 runs good once tuned. As long as I keep it lubed, it eats any brass I feed it! I would not hessitate to build another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Off set mount Everything runs with sti gen 1 mags with spacers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_stw Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 My next qustion is i can get a pretty good deal on an sti trubor with a bunch of mags and other parts, would it be worth it for me to get the trubor or should I just save up some more money and just buy a new ck arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANFARM Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Sean....depends on the condition of the Trubor and price. I made the transition to Open with a ragged out 9mm Trubor just to see if I liked it. Well, I did ...the optics have brought a whole new renewal of shooting to my old eyes....it’s a wonderful thing. Weeks after shooting the Trubor I ordered a Chaos from Adam and it’s beyond amazing. Other than my Limited Atlas Titan...best investment I’ve made in the sport. The conversion to Major Open was a very interesting experience. A lot of trial and error on loads....but I’m finally there. Best of luck....Open is fun for old guys!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Ck Sti's qc has been suspect for several years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklab Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Both my TruBors, with standard C-Mores, run 100% until they need new springs (every 3,000 rounds) I never herd anyone put a round count on the spring before. That's good to know, I only change my springs at the end of the season. Maybe I should start changing them more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just read through this open forum. You could read for weeks the threads started about this exact thing. Concerning loads, bad reloading, poorly tuned extractors, ejectors, a combination of x mount with x extractor set up. There are a lot of factors that play into any gun running. 9major seems to need more attention....sometimes it doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_stw Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Shmella said: Just read through this open forum. You could read for weeks the threads started about this exact thing. Concerning loads, bad reloading, poorly tuned extractors, ejectors, a combination of x mount with x extractor set up. There are a lot of factors that play into any gun running. 9major seems to need more attention....sometimes it doesn’t. Yeah I've read through a lot in this forum and there are so many conflicting opinions and experiences that its hard to really judge what is really common issues or special things to watch for with 9mm open. At matches I see more people having issues with 9mm open or open guns in general than any other division, ive been shooting limited a little this year and over about 3k rounds ive had absolutely zero issues and i dont go crazy with mag tunning and it doesnt need much maintenance. I know open is a different animal but im just looking for opinions on 9mm on reliability and things to watch for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumprun13k Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Worst thing I ever deal with is coming across Maxxtech brass. I hate that crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthrader18 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, sean_stw said: Yeah I've read through a lot in this forum and there are so many conflicting opinions and experiences that its hard to really judge what is really common issues or special things to watch for with 9mm open. At matches I see more people having issues with 9mm open or open guns in general than any other division, ive been shooting limited a little this year and over about 3k rounds ive had absolutely zero issues and i dont go crazy with mag tunning and it doesnt need much maintenance. I know open is a different animal but im just looking for opinions on 9mm on reliability and things to watch for. I've been running 9 major for the better part of the year. I've had zero issues, I run an offset cmore to avoid the potential ejection issues. Plus the dot is closer to the slide and feels more natural to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_stw Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Is the Atlas Chaos really worth the extra $1500 it would cost over a ck arms thunder? When you figure I'm going to need to buy mags also that would probably cost around $500-600 unless i can find a good deal on some mags. It's kinda hard to justify spending over 6k to me to get into open unless the Atlas is really just that much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacivilian Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, sean_stw said: Is the Atlas Chaos really worth the extra $1500 it would cost over a ck arms thunder? When you figure I'm going to need to buy mags also that would probably cost around $500-600 unless i can find a good deal on some mags. It's kinda hard to justify spending over 6k to me to get into open unless the Atlas is really just that much better. Yes yes yes. If nothing else besides the customer service. I have talked to Adam and the atlas crew about 10-15 times now and have yet to not have them answer me when I call. He called me from the range on his personal phone after test firing my Chaos. That’s dedication to your customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_stw Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, lacivilian said: Yes yes yes. If nothing else besides the customer service. I have talked to Adam and the atlas crew about 10-15 times now and have yet to not have them answer me when I call. He called me from the range on his personal phone after test firing my Chaos. That’s dedication to your customers. Atlas is gonna be at Area 8 championship this weekend and I'm gonna take a look at there gun and have a talk with them. I wonder if they would sell the gun without the optic and mount at a lower price seeing as i already have them, i guess that will be a question ill ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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