Mike62 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 My 1050 all of the sudden has started spilling powder all over. Since I am loading 9mm minor with 3.1grs of titegroup I am fairly positive it is coming out of the powder drop. Does anyone have a good idea on what I should check to make this stop? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Powder Measure issue or powder that gets knocked out of case when shell plate rotates? Powder measure: call Dillon and discuss. You can try to disassemble, clean, and reassemble the whole powder measure assembly, but clean the "powder funnel" first. The "powder funnel" (powder-through expander plug) may be dirty. Powder knocked out of case: Tighten shell plate until it doesn't rotate easily and back off the bolts until it just moves. Remove shell plate and apply grease as shown in manual. I use marine propellor grease as it is very thick. Don/t cycle press so fast. Place finger over case as it leaves the powder measure die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 I believe this is a powder measure issue. I will give it a good cleaning this weekend, but I do not believe that is the issue. I tried cleaning it a while back and it did not appear dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Does the failsafe return rod retract the powder bar fully? If not, snug the blue wing nut at the bottom of the failsafe rod until the coil spring above it is partially compressed at the end of the upstroke. You should still be able to slip a business card between the coils, so don't overtighten it. Does the powder bar go to full travel with a case under the powder measure and the handle down? The powder bar should completely travel to the far side before the handle bottoms out. A guideline is to measure the case mouth after sizing, and again after flaring. The case mouth should flare to at least .010" larger than the sized, unflared case mouth measures, and up to .020" larger. Less than .010" means that a shorter case may not fully activate the measure, leaving undropped powder in the bar. This powder can shake out as the bar begins to retract. If you are using an auto-drive of some sort, you could be operating the machine too fast, and not giving the powder enough time to drop. Finally, use a cotton swab and alcohol to clean the inside of the powder funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Thanks Dillon. The powder bar was retracting fully but snugging up the blue wing nut significantly reduced spillage. Now it appears the only spillage I get is a few flakes when a case gets slightly stuck in the MR bullet feeder expander. I guess this is a fact of life with using that expander to support the bullet feeder. Thanks, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armydad Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 It’s been a while, but I thought I remembered folks not recommending the MBF expanders on the 1050’s. The Dillon powder funnel was preferred. I don’t remember why... I’m d and it’s been a while - LOL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 I kept trying to use the Dillon funnel but couldn't get bullets to stop tumbling so I am using the mr bullet die. I think there would be a market for a hybrid between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V2plus25 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 It could have something to do with how much pressure it takes to retract the Dillon funnel vs the Mr. Bullet Feeder funnel out of the case mouth on the upstroke (none vs a bit). I'll gladly have a small bit of resistance to overcome on the upstroke if it ensures I get a solid bullet seating at the next station. It's still less resistance than that felt on the 550 (and I assume the 650) since on those the powder funnel also sizes the ID of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V2plus25 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 9:02 AM, Mike62 said: I kept trying to use the Dillon funnel but couldn't get bullets to stop tumbling so I am using the mr bullet die. I think there would be a market for a hybrid between the two. I forgot to mention if you do have powder spillage between the drop die and the next station (which I assume is your bullet seating station), there's always the zip tie fix. Do a search on here for a more in depth overview, but basically putting a zip tie between those 2 stations provides a bit more resistance to the piece of brass as it moves between stations and reduces brass movement. With the amount of powder you and I are putting in the cases this shouldn't be a problem unless you're indexing the press fairly fast. 9mm major powder loads most likely have more of an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Not sure anyone can help but I am still having this problem. It does not seem to matter how fast I operate the press powder still falls from the powder drop. The funny thing is I have second 1050 now and it doesn't drop a single grain of powder. I can't figure out what is happening. Here is a pic of the press after only 100rnds, as you can see the powder spillage is centered around the powder drop. Any ideas would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabGuy Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Frist thing I would try, is to swap the power measures and drops between the two 1050s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 What does the top of the tool head look like? What powder and charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Titegroup 3.1grs, I will get a pick of the top of the tool head tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 It looks like you have modified the powder bar. Have you tried an unmodified powder bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 I have, it was doing this before I installed the uniquetech powder bar. That was one of my many attempts to solve this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Ok pull out the mr bullet feeder expander . Look inside I got one that was (lack of better words) or appeared to be threaded . This caused a mess (not as bad as you are having). DA changed venders . eather hone it out or complain to DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 There is an idea I have not tried. I will check it out tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim m Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Just curious if your bench is Really Solid and Flat. Wobble and not being level flat could cause issues, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Bench is extremely solid and flat 2.5" thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V2plus25 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) I agree with what one of the guys said. While you've got it apart why not swap the working powder measure from your other press. And then perhaps also the die and funnel if the other measure behaves the same. Looks like a sweet setup you have there! It must be nice to load indoors. I got banned to the garage. Edited November 29, 2018 by V2plus25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike62 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 Well I found the culprit, I have no one to blame but myself. Apparently the small plastic block became lodged in the powder drop and was causing all my issues for the last 15K rounds. Once I took it out and reinstalled it on the powder bar where it goes, everything works fine. Hopefully my stupidity helps someone in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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