quliming Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Fiber optics for sure. If the dot distracts you, just make it smaller. But when you get better, the dot helps you to see faster and shoot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosswoodford Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I prefer fibers. I always seem to lose a black one, or standard dot for that matter. Fiber optics have been the only things that work well for me thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB05 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I can't use the blacked out front sight...just doesn't work for me. I started with red FO but tried the green and i like the green so much more...i can pick it up much quicker than red (unless in really low light). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamj Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Red fiber optics for me. It just helps me pick up the front sight easier. If it's too bright or distracting just sharpie the top of the fiber to tone it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I use Green FO as it's easier to find, but even with a FO in I still sight using the black edges of the FS. The FO is there just for up close (makes it a bit easier to track) or dim environmental conditions where the FS is hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quliming Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Fiber for speed shooting, black for hard shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello0o0o0o Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 honestly, another option would be to get a very very small FO maybe in a green color. and/or sharpie out the major top to dim it considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillGarlandJr Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) On 1/9/2019 at 4:56 PM, pskys2 said: I use Green FO as it's easier to find, but even with a FO in I still sight using the black edges of the FS. The FO is there just for up close (makes it a bit easier to track) or dim environmental conditions where the FS is hard to find. This....for me the benefit of the fiber optic is being able to use it like a dot for easier targets. As the difficulty of the shot increases I'll start to refine things and use the front and rear sights in a more traditional manner. I have to admit this is something I had to work on as I was brought up shooting bullseyes utilizing textbook sight alignment and sight picture. I started to experiment with this after taking a Stoeger class. What I've found, along with a lot of other really good guys on here, is if my trigger manipulation is on point the refinement of my sights doesn't need to be so sharp. Having worked this for a while now, I can use a target focus while using the fiber optic like a dot, out to 15 to 20-ish yards and get "A" hits. Past 20 yds, I can't guarantee A hits as well using this method, though I think the distances could be stretched out with more work. Edited January 22, 2019 by BillGarlandJr Additional information included in the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choy Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 With out a doubt you want a fiber optic, what Bill G Jr said is true, you don't have to have perfect sight alignment to shoot this sport especially on mid range and in targets, with some practice you will learn what you have to have to get the hits you need. Perhaps the biggest thing for me is what color, if I use red then it is way too much like open and I tend to pull the trigger when the red dot in on the target creating a miss. So I use green. I also have several guns that have dawson rear fiber sights and have found I much prefer the solid black rear and only fiber in the front sight. Best of Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matir Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I recently installed a set of Dawson sights (competition black back, F/O front) and absolutely love it. For the first time, I am punching out round holes at 7-10 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo357 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I have tried it with and without a fiber. Found it was much faster with the green fiber. Just easier to track the sight. On my 2nd shot on a target, seeing the fiber drop back into the notch is much easier with a fiber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta1759 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I use green FO front, black rears. I zero'd at 20 using the FO as the Point of Impact if the tops of the sights are lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 8/20/2018 at 6:52 PM, cjsmith223 said: I swap back and forth between red and green. I usually change it about every month and a half. by changing it back and forth it seems to help me with sight focus, Draws my attention into the front sight. I struggle focusing on my front sight when i need to so this helps. This was taught to me from a guy that’s been in the game for a couple of decades and has trained with some of the best in the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskd82 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I prefer fiber optic, so much easier to pick up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Went red to green fiber, switched back and forth finally settled on green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I shoot target focus most of times, so fiber front is a must Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparten8654 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Each sight has it advantages all black you focus on the edge of the sight easier, where the fiber optic you will pick up the signs slightly faster but won't be as accurate . i have had several fiber optic rods break in match and since i use the same gun overseas as for matches i won't go back to fiber optics. Reliable equipment is a big factor for me. With that being said everyone is different try them all and actually make a honest assessment with a set course of fire and time , But remember giver yourself the same amount of time of practice for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklt222 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 When I was younger and awesome vision, I preferred the black. Now struggling with up close vision, the fiber optics work best for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessesmith121 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I run green for a bit then switch to red for a bit. Keeps it all fresh for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklt222 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I need my 25 year old eyes back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seery Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Used to prefer an all black front post. But as I get older I appreciate and prefer red and green FO. Edited June 3, 2020 by Seery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFargo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) I'm struggling with this a bit as well.... I've been a bullseye shooter since I was sixteen years old. I'm 42 now. (and now shoot IPSC only). So on top of the fact that I was used to all black sights, we have the addition that here in the Netherlands we almost exclusively shoot indoors.... Still almost all practical shooters use black rear and fiber front.... But indoors... you run from one position where you have no overhead light to another position with a light directly above, to another position with another lights source at a different angle... So ... your sight picture changes all the time... from a bright fiber to a completely dull fiber...... to something in between.... I can't help but think this is not beneficial..... I have shot limited with all black sights and to be honest... that worked fine for me... But due to 'peer pressure' I am now also using a red fiber front sight..... been using it for about a year and I don't feel it's helping me.... What do you guys think? We are used to well-lit targets indoors. So all-black sights give a very crisp sight picture on a well-lit target / plate / popper. The fiber does little to nothing indoors, in my opinion.... Edited June 22, 2020 by WFargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 10 hours ago, WFargo said: I'm struggling with this a bit as well.... I've been a bullseye shooter since I was sixteen years old. I'm 42 now. (and now shoot IPSC only). So on top of the fact that I was used to all black sights, we have the addition that here in the Netherlands we almost exclusively shoot indoors.... Still almost all practical shooters use black rear and fiber front.... But indoors... you run from one position where you have no overhead light to another position with a light directly above, to another position with another lights source at a different angle... So ... your sight picture changes all the time... from a bright fiber to a completely dull fiber...... to something in between.... I can't help but think this is not beneficial..... I have shot limited with all black sights and to be honest... that worked fine for me... But due to 'peer pressure' I am now also using a red fiber front sight..... been using it for about a year and I don't feel it's helping me.... What do you guys think? We are used to well-lit targets indoors. So all-black sights give a very crisp sight picture on a well-lit target / plate / popper. The fiber does little to nothing indoors, in my opinion.... I think this solves all the problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFargo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 for sure! But I would like to stick with iron sights for as long as my eyes can manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrd Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 11:49 AM, WFargo said: What do you guys think? We are used to well-lit targets indoors. So all-black sights give a very crisp sight picture on a well-lit target / plate / popper. The fiber does little to nothing indoors, in my opinion.... I shoot a lot indoors too and I think that with well-lit targets and varying light where you shoot, it is even more valuable to have a fiber optic front sight. I generally have an easier time to focus on the FO sight, the light and contrast helps me a lot. When the targets are well lit it actually makes it harder for me to focus on the sight - especially if it is black, and even more so if there is poor light above/behind the shooting position. With good lightning above and behind me, so the back of the front sight gets lit up, I can manage with a black front sight. But in poor light, as is often the case, the FO helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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