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On 8/9/2018 at 11:39 AM, kneelingatlas said:

Lovex D037.1 is the ticket: slower than 3N38 at half the price and doesn't fill the case as high.  I'm loading 10gr under a 115 and the case is not as full as 9gr of 3N38.

 

Have you noticed any temperature sensitivity?

 

How is ES and SD in 9 major?

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6 hours ago, d_striker said:

 

Have you noticed any temperature sensitivity?

 

How is ES and SD in 9 major?

 

I live in San Diego, so there is no temperature variation ?

 

I haven't put it over a chrono yet, so I can't comment.

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On 8/10/2018 at 7:34 PM, Leadpilot said:

Burn rate is the only common factor. I’ve found that the Lovex is cleaner and much softer in the hands. In the pic Lovex is on the left and aa#7 right.

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have you chono the rounds yet?

 

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On ‎8‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 9:39 AM, kneelingatlas said:

Lovex D037.1 is the ticket: slower than 3N38 at half the price and doesn't fill the case as high.  I'm loading 10gr under a 115 and the case is not as full as 9gr of 3N38.

Found a pound from a local small dealer.  Going to do some testing and if I like it he can get me 8 lb kegs.  Hard to get anything other than one pound cans here.  Thanks for the tip.

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Name: Czechmate 37.1 9.6g

Notes: Lovex 37.1 9,6g 124g FMJ 29.40mm

Shots: 12

Average: 1361 FPS

SD: 8 FPS

Min: 1348 FPS

Max: 1373 FPS

Spread: 25 FPS

Power Factor Average: 169

Power Factor Low: 167

Power Factor High: 170

Barometric Pressure: 30.1 inHg

Temperature: 72F

Weight: 124 grains

 

 

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Great powder, leaves a little residue.

N350 is cleaner, but D37.1 works the comp better.

Above is with Federal 100 primer, I now use F200 and 9.5gr.

 

Lovex is quite temperature sensitive.

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On 9/29/2018 at 1:48 PM, GhostDog said:

Great powder, leaves a little residue.

N350 is cleaner, but D37.1 works the comp better.

Above is with Federal 100 primer, I now use F200 and 9.5gr.

 

Lovex is quite temperature sensitive.

Some like you like it.. but it's temp sensitive?

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On ‎8‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 12:59 AM, kneelingatlas said:

 

I haven't put it over a chrono yet, so I can't comment.

 

Are you sure it's a Major load (PF 165+) ?

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51 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said:

Are you sure it's a Major load (PF 165+) ?

 

I'm pretty confident, @Leadpilot has done extensive chrono work with his Czechmate

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No exact chrono data, but I take 5 PF points per 20 degrees celsius loss.

Twice that of VV.

Based on reports from comparison of others, PF at home vs PF at match.

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26 minutes ago, kneelingatlas said:

 

I'm pretty confident, @Leadpilot has done extensive chrono work with his Czechmate

 

Are his data on the forum?

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Chrono’d at a match, 2 degrees C (36F), still made 168.5.

At 71F about 171 with F200 primer.

Temperature sensitivity less than I expected.

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Just bought some Lovex D037.1 at Grafs on Black Friday. Will test.....if it is as soft as 3N38 and half as clean will take it at $136 per 8lbs!

 

With regards to 3N38 I am loading 9.6 gr behind MG 124gr at 1.165 OAL and never had a malfunction due to “growing” rounds ...using an Infinity hybrid barrel with 2 3/16 popple holes and binary engineering compensator for a 176PF.

 

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thanks a lot. good to know the "bullet push" issues for full case of powder

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On 8/10/2018 at 3:43 AM, Hi-Power Jack said:

Depends on whether your current powder is holding you back from

shooting your true potential.

 

If your grip is not secure, and you're not running FAST, and you're

not quite sure which target to shoot next, and getting too many

C's, D's and M's, dropping your splits down from

0.25 to 0.17 isn't going to help too much.

 

You have to be really doing everything else correctly and looking for

a Very Slight improvement to advance, based on the dot settling

a LITTLE bit faster.

 

But, the price really doesn't matter if you have a $ 4,000 gun, does it ?

 

This.

 

Each gun is different. Find what works. I tried 3N38 in my Czechmate. 9.2gr with 115 CMJ's. Fed 200 SPP Magnum. Worked, but powder didn't all burn. Switched to Silhouette, very accurate and clean in my CM.

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