Johnny_Chimpo Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Bostenelli said: so is this idpa and uspsa legal for co? Don't know about IDPA, don't care and if I did their rules are a complete mess anyway Definitely not legal for CO in USPSA, and it should stay that way for two reasons: it's SAO and the dot doesn't reciprocate with the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) They make an adapter that allows the dot to be mounted to the slide. Makes it stick up higher than is ideal though IMO https://www.laugoarms.com/ipsc-retro-pdo.html Edited May 16, 2022 by waktasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 but it's still pure S.A. gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 So is a Walther PPQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofade Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Here are my Aliens, I shoot IPSC - Production Optics. It is on our production list and the 'Retro Kit' makes it PO compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 hours ago, waktasz said: So is a Walther PPQ Yeah most striker fired guns are SAO, but striker fired guns are specifically allowed in CO and Production, while hammer fired SAOs, like the Alien, are not. At least according to current rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Last I looked, it's not legal for Production in USPSA, so not gonna fly for CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cykapath Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Anyone try 9major through this thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpYoursPal Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 5/16/2022 at 5:55 AM, Johnny_Chimpo said: Don't know about IDPA, don't care and if I did their rules are a complete mess anyway Definitely not legal for CO in USPSA, and it should stay that way for two reasons: it's SAO and the dot doesn't reciprocate with the slide. One local guy shoots it in ESP. I’m assuming that means it’s legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 19 hours ago, UpYoursPal said: One local guy shoots it in ESP. I’m assuming that means it’s legal If your locak IDPA SO knowledge and rules enforcement is as "good" as it locally to me, don't assume it is. At my local IDPA matches I see SOs let people skate with all sorts of clearly unacceptable gear. I'm talking s#!t like full on USPSA belt rigs, 2011s with compensators, and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpYoursPal Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 7:11 PM, Johnny_Chimpo said: If your locak IDPA SO knowledge and rules enforcement is as "good" as it locally to me, don't assume it is. At my local IDPA matches I see SOs let people skate with all sorts of clearly unacceptable gear. I'm talking s#!t like full on USPSA belt rigs, 2011s with compensators, and the like. You’re completely correct. Local SO rules knowledge is inconsistent at best. Unfortunately I’m just a dude who dabbles in IDPA so I don’t know any better than them. Here’s a guy shooting it at IDPA nationals last year. I assume that if it’s okay at nationals then it’s G2G elsewhere: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 10 hours ago, UpYoursPal said: You’re completely correct. Local SO rules knowledge is inconsistent at best. Unfortunately I’m just a dude who dabbles in IDPA so I don’t know any better than them. Here’s a guy shooting it at IDPA nationals last year. I assume that if it’s okay at nationals then it’s G2G elsewhere: I wouldn't bet on consistency there either. Did you know they don't even a have a position or role analogous to our DNROI? Every area director in IDPA makes his own rule decisions. What happens when you go to compete in another area? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostenelli Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Alien is fine in idpa either version but it’s idpa who cares uspsa would have to run other flavors in open but locally I doubt anyone will care as I wouldn’t be fast enough to contend with the top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerko Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I've thought after all these years it will be on production list already , i'm sure there's more then 2k of them out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russty Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 All these years? It was first unveiled in the US at the 2020 Shot Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerko Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 2:58 PM, Russty said: All these years? It was first unveiled in the US at the 2020 Shot Show. I know ,I was there . But was actually introduced to the world year before :):) I guess scamdemic and all delayed the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondaddy Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I am curious how it performs in IPSC with the adaptor On 5/16/2022 at 7:01 PM, Zerofade said: Here are my Aliens, I shoot IPSC - Production Optics. It is on our production list and the 'Retro Kit' makes it PO compliant. I am curious how it performs in IPSC. I assume it can be run in Open category with USPSA and even without the comp it seems like it might run as flat as a pure racer…thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone45 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 12:46 AM, Irondaddy said: I am curious how it performs in IPSC with the adaptor I am curious how it performs in IPSC. I assume it can be run in Open category with USPSA and even without the comp it seems like it might run as flat as a pure racer…thoughts? Shooting minor in Open though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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