Avenida Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Its gonna be priced like an SVI. It is no mistery, it is all over the net and FB. The designer is not very candid with details until the gun is released in 2019, but there are a few tips on his page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Hammer / ignition system. From the chech patent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, johnbu said: Hammer / ignition system. From the chech patent. I'm not used to feeling this retarded. I don't like it. Edit: alright, I think I see whats going on now... Edited September 4, 2018 by TonytheTiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudukai13 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) I suppose one would have to use an inverted hammer if the primer sitting in the chamber is below the top of the strong hand, just didn't realize that before from the pictures...Seems similar to the Chiappa Rhino. I still don't see how it could be a DA/SA trigger, considering the combination of no exposed hammer to safely ride home and no apparent external decocker... Edited September 4, 2018 by Rudukai13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tictacticaltimmy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 What a cool design! It seems to me that "20" in the diagram is a DA or half cock notch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudukai13 Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 New video that shows how the pistol is disassembled and engineered. Hammer is internal, upside down. I STILL don't see how this thing is DA/SA without an external decocker, but oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudukai13 Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Another with even more pictures of various iterations. At the 15 second mark they show one that appears to have a muzzle device (compensator?) and centerally-mounted optic. If they build a compact G19-ish sized version of this with the ability to mount a compensator, a stationary red dot, and a flashlight, I will sell my P320 and buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Hoping the price is reasonable. I'd like to try one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Garmil said: Hoping the price is reasonable. I'd like to try one out. It won't be cheap. From what I hear, it will be priced like a GOOD 2011 (as opposed to cheap 2011). It might be very good indeed. Hope there's some in real people's hands early next year - and we get more experience and feedback on what it is really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Yea pretty obvious that is a single action design. That sear is not capable of cocking the hammer, only releasing it. I do find it interesting that the mechanism is on the removable sight rail. This tells me maybe there are other mechanisms than the one shown in the drawing. Maybe a cocking mechanism beyond part of the slide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/3/2018 at 10:23 PM, Rudukai13 said: New video that shows how the pistol is disassembled and engineered. Hammer is internal, upside down. I STILL don't see how this thing is DA/SA without an external decocker, but oh well... u can start in condition 3 . it looks exactly like old hk p8 del. blowback design mech. with regular different type full cocked hammer. for my opinion i strongly recommend external safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Looks like there's a trigger blocking safety on the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 hours ago, perttime said: It won't be cheap. From what I hear, it will be priced like a GOOD 2011 (as opposed to cheap 2011). It might be very good indeed. Hope there's some in real people's hands early next year - and we get more experience and feedback on what it is really like. I don't buy that. Even GOOD 2011 parts aren't that expensive and you're paying thousands for labor. The design of this should not require anywhere near as much work by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Garmil said: I don't buy that. Even GOOD 2011 parts aren't that expensive and you're paying thousands for labor. The design of this should not require anywhere near as much work by hand. Just rephrasing what Laugo Arms say on their facebook page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 this gas operated gun can use only jacketed bullets and have fixed barrel. after 30k it will loose accuracy. in any 1911/2011 u can drop the old barrel to the garbage and install new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudukai13 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 hours ago, yigal said: this gas operated gun can use only jacketed bullets and have fixed barrel. after 30k it will loose accuracy. in any 1911/2011 u can drop the old barrel to the garbage and install new one. I have to imagine there's a way to remove and replace the barrel. "Fixed" refers to the fact that the barrel itself doesn't move during the cycling of the action, not that it's an integral part of the frame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx1138jt Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Key question for me is how much it weights and if it’ll fit into the IDPA box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Rudukai13 said: I have to imagine there's a way to remove and replace the barrel. "Fixed" refers to the fact that the barrel itself doesn't move during the cycling of the action, not that it's an integral part of the frame... of coarse . somebody install it. i hope that this not the same worker that assembled my cz tso 9mm and my cz 75 cadet 22 kit. Edited October 8, 2018 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenida Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) On 10/7/2018 at 2:04 PM, yigal said: this gas operated gun can use only jacketed bullets and have fixed barrel. after 30k it will loose accuracy. in any 1911/2011 u can drop the old barrel to the garbage and install new one. are you referring to the Alien? Could you be more specific as to how you reach to these conclusions? I am honestly asking, thanks Edited October 8, 2018 by Avenida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Avenida said: are you referring to the Alien? Could you be more specific as to how you reach to these conclusions? I am honestly asking, thanks not to this gun. few my friends used hk p7m13 guns for ipsc practice . after 30k with factory ammo guns loose accuracy and pf with same ammo dropped to 115 from 135. in my country u can't order new barrel or get most major gun parts. this gun have same gas /piston operated mech. like Alien . Edited October 9, 2018 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trub7dur Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 12 hours ago, yigal said: not to this gun. few my friends used hk p7m13 guns for ipsc practice . after 30k with factory ammo guns loose accuracy and pf with same ammo dropped to 115 from 135. in my country u can't order new barrel or get most major gun parts. this gun have same gas /piston operated mech. like Alien . Can a gunsmith order and replace the barrel for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, trub7dur said: Can a gunsmith order and replace the barrel for you? only in ours local gun company that produce firearms it is not problem.great service. they even allowed me to fit barrel to my new gun when i order it. but if u have cz or something else gun brokers prefer to sell u new gun . u can switch to super senior div. before gun broker will give u new STI barrel .problems with gov. registration for gun parts. Edited October 9, 2018 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 im very interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, e-mishka said: im very interested yes it's very interesting design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billierudeboy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 There is a rumor i Sweden that it will come as a limited editition 2019 and the price will be around 5500$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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