Chills1994 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) It fits in a normal 30 round Gen 2 or Gen 3, 30 round Pmag: So no need for a mag block or a dedicated 9mm AR lower. Supposedly, they will be on sale later this summer...buy 3 for like $64 or $69 . Edited July 11, 2018 by Chills1994 Link to comment
lordnikoncanon Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Wait don’t you need that hook looking thing attached to the lower? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
Chills1994 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I am not for sure which hook looking thing you are talking about... But I think the Endo mag is its own ejector if that is what you mean. Link to comment
lordnikoncanon Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 If they are looking at the competition market, they will need to get the mag capacity up to 36 rds or so. Link to comment
stick Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Look at their site, it's not listed as a product yet. agreed, they need a 40 round pmag option Link to comment
MemphisMechanic Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 hours ago, lordnikoncanon said: Wait don’t you need that hook looking thing attached to the lower? If you could make it work with a Guard bolt & barrel you actually wouldn’t. Link to comment
BartCarter Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 So, looking at this, it really seems slick. It replaces a dedicated Colt type lower or insert. The ejector and feed ramp is in the magazine insert. I guess making it work with a CMMG Guard would depend where the ammo sits when loaded. Link to comment
MemphisMechanic Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) It’d be a problem. The Guard needs your mag positioned low enough to feed a 5.56 style bolt, not the much heavier AR9 blowback units. I welded and recut my colt mags to sit almost 1/8” lower in the gun with my hybrid Guard / colt mag setup. Edited July 11, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment
bwikel Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Wouldn't a pmag sit at the correct mag height to begin with since it clears a 5.56 bolt? Link to comment
Startingover Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I dig it, pretty cool stuff. Link to comment
1981Shooter Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I think it's pretty cool. I'll probably pick one to use with an AR pistol lower and snag a cheap short barrel upper to play around with. Link to comment
toysejr Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 The pre-order link is on their website now .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Tampa-XD45 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Only $25 and you get LRBHO. The video looks good. Link to comment
surfmaster Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 What's also cool is that it appears to be relatively easy to insert a loaded mag on a closed bolt. This is problem with Colt-pattern 9mm mags. I hope this product works. If so, it's very innovative. Link to comment
Chills1994 Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) I"ve got plenty of Pmags (FYI....you can fit 28, 30 rounder mags in a tall .50 cal ammo can.) So sacrificing a Pmag body or 3 to try this out wouldn't hurt. With my Colt pattern 9mm "stick" mags, after about the tenth round in, I need to have gorilla fingers to get rounds 11 through say 27 into the mag. I bought an UpLULA for the Colt pattern mags, but I haven't tried it yet. Soooo...I am wondering if these Pmag conversions would be any easier on the thumb??? Edited July 13, 2018 by Chills1994 Link to comment
BartCarter Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Chills1994 said: ...I bought an UpLULA for the Colt pattern mags, but I haven't tried it yet... World of difference, you will never load by hand again after using this. Link to comment
BartCarter Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I wonder if it will eliminate complaints about using stick Glock and Colt mags. Not always, but feeding, LRBHO, etc. Link to comment
toysejr Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I preordered 3 now to figure out which 9mm upper and 5.56 lower to buy to jump in PCC with .Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
MemphisMechanic Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Chills1994 said: With my Colt pattern 9mm "stick" mags, after about the tenth round in, I need to have gorilla fingers to get rounds 11 through say 27 into the mag. I bought an UpLULA for the Colt pattern mags, but I haven't tried it yet. Whaaaaat?!! Colt UPLULA is the greatest thing ever. Makes loading effortless. With rounds 30 to 40 in my extended mag, I need to lay it horizontal, firmly brace the basepad against my belt, and pull it down onto the mag a little to keep it seated. Note: my mags have relocated mag-release windows which aren’t in the right spot for the LULA. But man, it loads incredibly quickly! Unloads them like a breeze too. Edited July 13, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment
MemphisMechanic Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 16 hours ago, surfmaster said: What's also cool is that it appears to be relatively easy to insert a loaded mag on a closed bolt. This is problem with Colt-pattern 9mm mags. Strip one round out of the colt mags and they load effortlessly every single time. Silly to have to do, but flawlessly effective. Link to comment
surfmaster Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Good advice about removing a round from Colt mags to make them easier to seat. I do notice having an odd number of rounds makes it easier to seat than an even one. However, if you live in a 10-round state, this is not feasible except for stages like classifiers with shooting sections that need less than 10 rounds. Always a downside when you are limited to 10 rounds. Link to comment
Chills1994 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 1:51 PM, MemphisMechanic said: Whaaaaat?!! Colt UPLULA is the greatest thing ever. Makes loading effortless. With rounds 30 to 40 in my extended mag, I need to lay it horizontal, firmly brace the basepad against my belt, and pull it down onto the mag a little to keep it seated. Note: my mags have relocated mag-release windows which aren’t in the right spot for the LULA. But man, it loads incredibly quickly! Unloads them like a breeze too. I shot a very informal steel plate practice session on Saturday. I brought the 6951 along and a LULA. WOW! World of difference! So much easier. Bonus: a Colt stick mag filled with 32 rounds of 9mm could double as a bludgeoning tool. Link to comment
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