Gcarr Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Like the topic asks... Which is your favorite CZ and why? I have kind of gone in a circle... My first CZ was a 75 Shadow SA. Next came a LSP... then SP01 Shadow... followed by Shadow 2... and now I am back to liking my 75 Shadow (DA now). And a PO7 for carry... What I found ... 75 Shadow SA - wanted a DA for Production LSP - I found It top heavy SP01 Shadow Custom - small grip Shadow 2 - never shot it that much, loved the grip but gun felt heavy Thinking of getting another CZ ... just undecided on which... Maybe a Bull Shadow or Accu Light... Help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A4ME Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Don't shoot competition, just EDC CZ's. I bought a P07 DUTY in .40 S&W for a project. Took it to the range and shot it. No way I'm messing up anything that shoots groups like that. Only mods to it are the optic cut for the DI RMR, the cut and installation in the slide for the BUIS and the taller front sight by Primary Machine, as well as replacing the factory trigger return spring and the firing pin block spring with the reduced power versions from CGW and a grip wrap/tape to keep it from moving around on those days when I sweat so bad it gets slick/slimy. I carry that pistol (12 round magazine in it and an extended P09 magazine for back up) anytime I get in the car/truck to go somewhere (shopping/eating/visiting relatives.) I bought an old Pre B CZ85 for a knock around gun and it was a bit long/big for IWB carry during the summer months (no issues with the outside the waist band/winter time carry). Ended up having to do more work to make it right than I expected and ended up with a really nice pistol. Loved those CZ85 controls. Got the urge to convert a CZ75 Compact to CZ85 controls so I bought one, bought the parts and did the measuring/figuring/drilling/fitting and now I carry a CZ85 Compact/clone for everyday around the house/garage/property. I've bought more CZ's since those but none of them fit the bill for EDC like those two. Recently I bought a P01 Omega and it's about to try and bump the CZ85 Compact/clone as my knock around pistol. My best (most accurate) range gun is the P09 9MM. It even beats out the Tactical Sport .40 for small groups. The only centerfire handgun I have that keeps up with the P09 9MM is my old S&W 586 with the 6" barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEPSTU Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 The Tactical Sport Orange. It is a gun that is worth more than it's price. I have shot guns with a much higher price point and some of them just can't compare. It simply eats anything you feed it. The stock trigger is unbelievable. I don't know how much you know about competition shooting, but I took a two day class with Robert Vogel. I let him feel the trigger to which he responded "Whoa." The next day he said "I have to get me one of these to play with." He later asked if he could shoot it. After he did that, I had everyone else in the class come up and ask if they could shoot it. Several said they were going to get one or start saving up for one. (This was even the STI guys.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Started with an SP01 and had it Cajunized that made a big difference. Picked up a 75B in .40 and did it the same way that gun is fun, got a PCR for EDC. Started shooting some competition so I got rid of my only Polymer which was a Walther PPQ M2 and replaced it with a Tactical Sport which I just got. I enjoy each one I shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I really like my CZ 75 SP01 Accu Shadow. I fits my hand very well and is very accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, BLUEPSTU said: The Tactical Sport Orange. It is a gun that is worth more than it's price. I have shot guns with a much higher price point and some of them just can't compare. It simply eats anything you feed it. The stock trigger is unbelievable. I don't know how much you know about competition shooting, but I took a two day class with Robert Vogel. I let him feel the trigger to which he responded "Whoa." The next day he said "I have to get me one of these to play with." He later asked if he could shoot it. After he did that, I had everyone else in the class come up and ask if they could shoot it. Several said they were going to get one or start saving up for one. (This was even the STI guys.) Ben Stoeger asked to try out my TSO. He had the same response. He mentioned having sent his Tanfo to Patriot for a trigger job. I can't shoot for s#!t but my off the shelf TSO is better than his Tanfo-whatever. I'm rounding out 7500 rounds without cleaning, which includes a two day class and a USPSA state match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Shadow SP01 milled for a DPP Although if this makes CO weight, I'll be the first in line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 ^not a chance it makes 45oz with an optic and a 140mm mag. there is a reason why even on the czub website they don't list the weight. and ipsc prod optics doesn't have our uspsa weight limit, so they made it for that game not ours. i really would like to own a TSO. and a bren. and a shadowline p01. and a couple dan wessons. and one of the .22lr rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, rowdyb said: ^not a chance it makes 45oz with an optic and a 140mm mag. there is a reason why even on the czub website they don't list the weight. and ipsc prod optics doesn't have our uspsa weight limit, so they made it for that game not ours. i really would like to own a TSO. and a bren. and a shadowline p01. and a couple dan wessons. and one of the .22lr rifles. Get your G card and strut your ass on the Shot, NRA, MM show circuit. They'll throw some hardware at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, rowdyb said: ^not a chance it makes 45oz with an optic and a 140mm mag. there is a reason why even on the czub website they don't list the weight. and ipsc prod optics doesn't have our uspsa weight limit, so they made it for that game not ours. I imagine you're right, and I'll stick to my SP01 Shadow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 is only in US CO division has 45oz limit? because i saw shooters use this sh2 with dovetail steel mount in CO div. as it is. for ipsc i prefer tso. for carry gun old cz75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukduk Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 They need to quit f’n around and make a Shadow 2 Compact Shadowline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scroadkill Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Well.. I tweeked my SP01 as far as I could for limited.. comp hammer, czc sao trigger, palmswells, extrawide LHS, cts 9mm upper and put 50 matches on this rig .. Then picked up a TSO 40, ditched the thumb rest, aluminum grips and magwell, added lok palmswells, exrawide LHS, moved the cts upper over to it to stay with the same 9mm load and my pairs shrank in half with the same upper. Deltas cut by 50%. why?: I think its the light trigger, extra weight out front, and a uniform 360 degree grip ALL working together to tighten up the pairs. Ive got maybe 12 matches on this rig.. and honestly love shooting this thing. So.. TSO wins. Sorry SP01. That said .. Stuart says he can tune my SP01 SAO trigger ... and fit a bull shadow upper in the frame while its in the shop.... I am sooooo tempted. Edited July 3, 2018 by scroadkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 TSO. It’s heavy but balanced and the grips fit my hand very well. Since installing a better(wider) thumb rest, it just feels right out of the draw. i also have the Czechmate and shadow 2 but the TSO is the winner for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 hours ago, yigal said: is only in US CO division has 45oz limit? because i saw shooters use this sh2 with dovetail steel mount in CO div. as it is. for ipsc i prefer tso. for carry gun old cz75 Yes, only in the us region, uspsa, is there a 45oz weight limit for carry optics (what ipsc calls production optics). there are some other major differences as well. I have a shadow 2 for CO with a milled in place for the optic and a fair bit of slide cuts to make weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 @rowdyb Internal or external cuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, SCTaylor said: @rowdyb Internal or external cuts? Both. I copied almost exactly what cz custom does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarr Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 I had one of my Shadow slides cut for a DPP. I have shot it on the 75 Shadow lower as well as the SP01 lower... and again I seem to prefer the 75 Shadow lower due to the way the grip fits in my hand. It's not about how wide the grip is, but more the length front to rear. With all things considered I think I would like a down sized Shadow 2 (SP01 length and weight) or maybe a SP01 with a Shadow 2 grip... bull barrel of course. I can not help but wonder what the CZ Mad Scientist will bring out next... probably right after I buy a new gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reverse_edge Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 11 hours ago, rowdyb said: ^not a chance it makes 45oz with an optic and a 140mm mag. there is a reason why even on the czub website they don't list the weight. and ipsc prod optics doesn't have our uspsa weight limit, so they made it for that game not ours. I'm guessing once those are released, they'll be able to be cut for weight (which one would assume will be cheaper than having CZC do a optic cut AND a weight cut) Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lior Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 My favorite is the CzechMate. In Limited or Open configuration, it's plain fun to shoot. Haven't gotten a TSO yet. When I shoot it in Limited it is just as fun as the TS9, but its level of fitting and finish is much better than anything else I've seen from CZ. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A4ME Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Have you seen this, from CZ Custom? Put it in full screen to shrink it down so you can see everything and make it "cleaner." Edited July 3, 2018 by M1A4ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEPSTU Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 19 hours ago, 858 said: Ben Stoeger asked to try out my TSO. He had the same response. He mentioned having sent his Tanfo to Patriot for a trigger job. I can't shoot for s#!t but my off the shelf TSO is better than his Tanfo-whatever. I'm rounding out 7500 rounds without cleaning, which includes a two day class and a USPSA state match. Nice! I hate cleaning but don't think I could go that long without cleaning. I do know that I have over 10,000 rounds through mine without one failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, BLUEPSTU said: Nice! I hate cleaning but don't think I could go that long without cleaning. I do know that I have over 10,000 rounds through mine without one failure. I've had a single failure that was caused by a sideways primer. I normally check all of my primers but I had to load 3k rounds of ammo for a BS class and a month worth of practice while I moved so it all got dumped into ammo cans. The pistol runs like a sewing machine, I just put a little oil on the sear and the frame rails. I've actually been waiting for it to choke and it just hasn't. Edited July 4, 2018 by 858 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarr Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 That A01 looks very interesting... guess I have been out of it for to long. Has anyone put their hands on one? If so how's the grip compare to other CZs? Looks like there are a lot of new possibilities in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkten Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I was just in the market for a classic design 9mm, looking at a Browning Hi Power, but then got a CZ-75B in my hands. The CZ went home with me... Later on, I decided to give IDPA a try, and bought a belt, Comp-Tac holster and mag pouches...I knew that trigger could be better and did some searching. Found CGW. Replaced hammer and firing pin springs. Then I bought a SP-01 just because, and sent it to them for some sights, action work and new trigger and hammer. Kept it SSP legal. Sweet! I know people are talking about TSO and Shadow models, but for my limited exposure to the brand, I'm pretty happy with my two CZ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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