DIYguy Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Because of aging eyes I've switched to Carry Optics Division. I do love being able to shoot red dot but not ready to run against Open shooters. Currently shooting M&P Pro CORE customized as much as legal. I love the feel of the CZ Tactical Sport which is set up for limited. I did some checking and CZ offers a mounting plate to replace the rear sight and mount a variety of RD optics. My question is... if I remove the magwell, keep the 141mm mags, mount a red dot, is there any reason a TS will not work for Carry Optics? Not sure about the thumb rest, I couldn't find that one listed. Even milling the slide and slide ports are legal, wondering if I'm missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 TSO is single action only, no go in CO. They have to be striker to SA/DA guns unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 TS is not production legal therefore not a carry optics gun. however, you might get away with it at local matches but def not majorsSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIYguy Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Thanks guys, went back and found the deal breaker. External hammer that can't be decocked. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 18 hours ago, SCTaylor said: TSO is single action only, no go in CO. They have to be striker to SA/DA guns unfortunately. if i will convert it to DA this be legal? +++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 if i will convert it to DA this be legal? +++ no, even though it would be mechanically suitable it's still not on the production gun listSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, Rnlinebacker said: no, even though it would be mechanically suitable it's still not on the production gun list Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk it is suitable.+++ but if somebody want almost cz ts gun but for CO . tanfoglio stock2 austr. version with bull barrel best choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 it is suitable.+++ but if somebody want almost cz ts gun but for CO . tanfoglio stock2 austr. version with bull barrel best choice?yes I'd definitely consider a stock 2/3 or cz shadow 2 as I have big hands and prefer a large frame platform. Also, the CZ Bull Shadow is a great option as well but I don't see it on the production list yetSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIYguy Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 The CZ site states the SP-01 Shadow is being used in USPSA in the production division. Have to do some research into CO mounting plates or custom milling for the Shadow 2. Looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rnlinebacker said: yes I'd definitely consider a stock 2/3 or cz shadow 2 as I have big hands and prefer a large frame platform. Also, the CZ Bull Shadow is a great option as well but I don't see it on the production list yet Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk as i promised to SCT to post only positive things and not to bitch cz sloppy workmanship on their few models don't consider shadow2 , wait to shadow3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 as i promised to SCT to post only positive things [emoji1] and not to bitch cz sloppy workmanship on their few models[emoji1] don't consider shadow2 , wait to shadow3[emoji1]you know I have to agree. my buddy has 2 tactical sports and has multiple things break including the the barrel literally cracking in half and go flying out the front while shooting!! Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Rnlinebacker said: you know I have to agree. my buddy has 2 tactical sports and has multiple things break including the the barrel literally cracking in half and go flying out the front while shooting!! Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk probably u have bad dream cz guns never cracks and never breaks don't worry all guns from all manufacturers that have hard use cracks. as i promised i post only positive things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If it's on the production list, it's CO legal, BUT it still has to weigh a max of 45oz. with an empty mag. The Stock III & Shadow 2 will need milling to make the weight limit. People have done it, but just be aware. I set up a Stock II with a dovetail mount & a Vortex Viper, Henning +4 bases & a plastic CZ guide rod that weighed 44.8oz. The discontinued Limited Pro was a perfect CO gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, OPENB said: If it's on the production list, it's CO legal, BUT it still has to weigh a max of 45oz. with an empty mag. The Stock III & Shadow 2 will need milling to make the weight limit. People have done it, but just be aware. I set up a Stock II with a dovetail mount & a Vortex Viper, Henning +4 bases & a plastic CZ guide rod that weighed 44.8oz. The discontinued Limited Pro was a perfect CO gun. as i know limited pro still in regular production by tanfoglio. it still in their new catalog that i have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 as i know limited pro still in regular production by tanfoglio. it still in their new catalog that i have.Yup, Just not imported to the US. We’re supposed to be getting a new, small frame “Lim Pro” soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCTaylor said: Yup, Just not imported to the US. We’re supposed to be getting a new, small frame “Lim Pro” soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk in my country it's imported with bull barrel and different name. very accurate gun. Edited July 1, 2018 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIYguy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, OPENB said: If it's on the production list, it's CO legal, BUT it still has to weigh a max of 45oz. with an empty mag. The Stock III & Shadow 2 will need milling to make the weight limit. People have done it, but just be aware. I set up a Stock II with a dovetail mount & a Vortex Viper, Henning +4 bases & a plastic CZ guide rod that weighed 44.8oz. The discontinued Limited Pro was a perfect CO gun. Good call on the weight. CZ specs out of the box say 46.5oz so overweight before extended mag and optics. The SP-01 Shadow Target II listed at 41.1oz but only 4.6" barrel and cost $340 more. I'm running Vortex Viper also and Tarren Tactical +4. When I get out to the shop I'll weight the mags and see how much the +4 weighs. I like the feel of the Shadow II better than the SP-01 plus .3 longer barrel. Any issues with the plastic guide rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Are the listed factory weights with a mag I wonder? I had set up an SP01 Shadow, not a Shadow 2, for CO too. Weight was not an issue with a dovetail mount & Deltapoint Pro. But it felt crowded, I just liked the grip on the Tanfos better. The CZ guide rod ran fine, no issues, & nothing lighter out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIYguy Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 Weighed my mags and the TT +4 adds 1.1oz, a Vortex Viper is 1.4oz which would put the Shadow 2 at minimum 49oz. That's a lot of milling to get to 45oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, DIYguy said: Weighed my mags and the TT +4 adds 1.1oz, a Vortex Viper is 1.4oz which would put the Shadow 2 at minimum 49oz. That's a lot of milling to get to 45oz don't trow the chips .u can build from them nice .22" gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, DIYguy said: Weighed my mags and the TT +4 adds 1.1oz, a Vortex Viper is 1.4oz which would put the Shadow 2 at minimum 49oz. That's a lot of milling to get to 45oz Don't forget the iron sights and grips can change weigh an ounce or two. Several folks have successfully made weight with Shadow 2's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I forgot i did have to change grips on my Stock II. I used the SSI Scales. You will save a lot of weight swapping out the CZ aluminum to something lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurley326 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I just got a S2 slide milled for carry optics from CZC and it makes weight easily. Highly recommend them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Hello: You have to put a magazine in there and then weight it. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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