mdh Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I have an older small frame Witness (circa '91) that I am trying to put back into service and it seems to be missing a part or two from the safety...the tombstone looking deal and the spring (see pic stolen from the 'net). Anyone know where to find the parts?? I have tried the usual sources - EAA, Numrich, etc with no luck. Heck, I cannot even find a parts diagram that has this particular safety version! Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, MDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I know I'm bringing this back from the dead, but did you by chance find these parts, or a complete replacement safety? I just picked up a old surplus Jericho 941, and I want to swap out the safety to something where the tab is parallel with the barrel instead of angled up, it throws off my grip. I have found that the safety looks in my gun looks just like the one in your photo with the little spring and steel tab/detent thingy. I know it is possible because I noticed these Jericho 941's for sale on GB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 @EngineerEli why not take a belt sander to that one until it turns into a flat semi-nonfunctional safety like the Unica stuff available for the current guns? That would probably be my approach. I personally never use the safety on a CZ/Tanfo platform weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I had a 941 FS, the all steel one, and some of the parts swapped with small frame TFs. Not sure about the safety, but I would not count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I ride the safety on almost all my guns, so I would like to have the functional safety there with a ledge I can rest my thumb on. I also would prefer to not cut on any of the original parts in case I want to put it all back to stock one day. It's sort of both a fun collector item for me, but also a range toy, maybe HD gun. This is what the Jericho 941 Safety looks like. My previous pictures prove it is possible, just have to figure out which part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Eli are you looking for the detent like the OP or the safeties themselves? If you want the safety I have them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 hours ago, EngineerEli said: I ride the safety on almost all my guns, so I would like to have the functional safety there with a ledge I can rest my thumb on. I also would prefer to not cut on any of the original parts in case I want to put it all back to stock one day. It's sort of both a fun collector item for me, but also a range toy, maybe HD gun. This is what the Jericho 941 Safety looks like. My previous pictures prove it is possible, just have to figure out which part... My Witness P has the same safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 If you're looking for the detent, here it is: https://shop.cz-usa.com/safety-detent-plunger-omega0450047001.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 12 hours ago, kneelingatlas said: If you're looking for the detent, here it is: https://shop.cz-usa.com/safety-detent-plunger-omega0450047001.html I'm looking for a complete safety lever. But now I wonder of the omega safety could work? Definitely not what is shown in my photos tough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, EngineerEli said: I'm looking for a complete safety lever. But now I wonder of the omega safety could work? Definitely not what is shown in my photos tough... So like this, right: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I'd be very surprised if the split type would work. I was expecting a pinned right side safety. Or, honestly I don't even need ambi, just a left side safety would be fine for me. They key is the inside surface of the left hand safety paddle. Does it have the stubby little cylinder for the detent plate like in the photos above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 hours ago, zombywoof said: My Witness P has the same safety. I did find this which seems like my best bet yet. Would you be able to measure the width of your frame where the safety crosses through? https://eaacorp.com/store/shop-full-width/parts/safety/polymer-ambi-safety-102085/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I felt bad taking over someone else's topic, so I created my own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 9:54 AM, EngineerEli said: I did find this which seems like my best bet yet. Would you be able to measure the width of your frame where the safety crosses through? https://eaacorp.com/store/shop-full-width/parts/safety/polymer-ambi-safety-102085/ Mine is a single side safety in a polymer model. The width of the frame measures 1.105" Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I have a bin of old tanfo stuff, I will look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, dogtired said: I have a bin of old tanfo stuff, I will look. I posted some additional measurements in my other topic. Determined the current polymer one is too wide. The one kneelingatlas had looks like it should fit, so I'm going to give that one a try. I'll report back results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 First is out of the vintage witness pistols, the second I believe is the same but has a model number. Let me know if you need measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 10:23 AM, dogtired said: First is out of the vintage witness pistols, the second I believe is the same but has a model number. Let me know if you need measurements. The parts we are looking for, do not have the small round captured detent as you show. It has a bore for a spring, and a little round nub for the 'tombstone' piece to press against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 7:36 AM, kneelingatlas said: So like this, right: I ended up giving this one a try, and it actually fits perfectly! Not sure if that is a part that can still be purchased or if that number on the sticker is the actual part number. But the actual part in this photo, does fit in and function well in my Jericho 941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Glad you found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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