DKnoch Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I screwed up factory safety and had to cut it off. I learned a lesson about using the correct punch though. Anyway need a new safety now and was looking at single sided (not the extended) safety. I don't need the safety shooting production. Few questions about it, is that single sided safety production legal? I'm assuming so with new rules? Also anyone know how it secures to the gun? I'm assuming I'll need same type of roll pin that was in my cut off ambi safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 It's legal. The safeties are retained by the leg of the sear spring that you flip up when you do a disassembly. The ambi side, if you use one, is retained by a roll pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Standard single sided safety & the flat unica safety are both USPSA production legal as I understand the current rules. I like the flat for more thumb room and near zero chance of accidentally bumping the safety on during a stage. The standard safety you can get for about $30 & the unica for about $45. Being a cheap arse with a dremel & a tube of touch up blue, I buy the standard safetys & then make them a flat safety. You will probably need to file a smidge more clearance off the top of the square piece attached to the rod, it is a try it and see thing & not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKnoch Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Can I just cut the post off that protruded for the ambi part and use that as a single sided safety then? Seems like that would probably work from what you are saying about single sided safeties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I can't think of any reason why not. I sold my double sided safeties here but it sounds like yours is already messed up so nothing to lose. The sear spring often gets left in the wrong position & you can screw it up when you rack your slide with it up I think (haven't tested that) , a very small Phillips screwdriver works great for catching the end of the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The Unica is what’s on my stock 2 now. I’m a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKnoch Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 I cut mine earlier so the post wouldn't protrude past right side of frame. Only issue is theres a few little spots on frame where right safety was. I may replace ambi to cover up or try to buff marks out, but at least I can use my gun without having to order a new safety now. Thanks for help all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colby_attack Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I was able to get my stock on filed down nearly flat and did my best to color match it to the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy44 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 So as of the updated rules for production, can grind my safties flat? I don't want the single sided flat safety . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 14 hours ago, stickboy44 said: So as of the updated rules for production, can grind my safties flat? I don't want the single sided flat safety . I would like to say yes, but would feel better telling you to just buy the Unica flats from Patriot Defense. https://patriotdefense.com/product/unica-tanfoglio-flat-safety/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 14 hours ago, stickboy44 said: So as of the updated rules for production, can grind my safties flat? I don't want the single sided flat safety . u can always blame it for wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 21.6 Sights, firing pins, firing pin retainers, pins, extractors, magazine releases, slide stops, thumb safeties, triggers, hammers, bushings, and ejectors MAY be replaced with OFM or aftermarket parts. Since it is legal to replace a thumb safety with an aftermarket thumb safety I think that Troy would be on the side of saying that you can make your own aftermarket thumb safety. From the 2004 book page 57, "Aftermarket ....... Items not manufactured by, or available directly from, the Original Firearms Manufacturer. (See OFM). " I just can not see a rules problem, but if you want then please send me your safety and $50.00 and I will return an aftermarket safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said: 21.6 Sights, firing pins, firing pin retainers, pins, extractors, magazine releases, slide stops, thumb safeties, triggers, hammers, bushings, and ejectors MAY be replaced with OFM or aftermarket parts. Since it is legal to replace a thumb safety with an aftermarket thumb safety I think that Troy would be on the side of saying that you can make your own aftermarket thumb safety. From the 2004 book page 57, "Aftermarket ....... Items not manufactured by, or available directly from, the Original Firearms Manufacturer. (See OFM). " I just can not see a rules problem, but if you want then please send me your safety and $50.00 and I will return an aftermarket safety. So .... can the speedshooter.com thumb rest slide stop be used? Probably not in production, but in CO it doesn't have to fit in the box... hmmmmmm Edited August 22, 2018 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 On 5/28/2018 at 4:31 PM, colby_attack said: I was able to get my stock on filed down nearly flat and did my best to color match it to the frame. Well at least you didn't have to fit the Unica flat safety (that was a lot of nuf [that is fun spelled backwards]). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The unica safety is drop in if you fit the sear. I’m guessing you chose to fit the safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 55 minutes ago, Nathanb said: The unica safety is drop in if you fit the sear. I’m guessing you chose to fit the safety Fitting the safety was easy for me. If you consider grind install check a couple or 3 times easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 8 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said: Fitting the safety was easy for me. If you consider grind install check a couple or 3 times easy. Ditto (three times). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbRex Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm assuming that being left-handed, I will need a DIY version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippshen Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I modified my safety few month ago, very easy to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, pbRex said: I'm assuming that being left-handed, I will need a DIY version? If you like the gun without a safety, just chop the shaft off flush. I was happy with the factory ambi safety, so I never messed with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbRex Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 2:16 PM, MemphisMechanic said: If you like the gun without a safety, just chop the shaft off flush. I was happy with the factory ambi safety, so I never messed with them. That sounds aggressive... IF I did do anything, it would be something that emulates the unica, not a chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 54 minutes ago, pbRex said: That sounds aggressive... IF I did do anything, it would be something that emulates the unica, not a chop. He's talking about taking the right side safety off if you're a lefty if you don't want a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbRex Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Polymer said: He's talking about taking the right side safety off if you're a lefty if you don't want a safety. @Polymer I totally get what Memphis meant but to me that wouldn't look ideal. I would much rather make it look like something from the factory. Edited August 27, 2018 by pbRex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, pbRex said: @Polymer I totally get what Memphis meant but to me that wouldn't look ideal. I would much rather make it look like something from the factory. It'll just look like the single side safety that is sold, single side meaning left side safety. But yes, no flush\unica safety for the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 8/26/2018 at 10:05 PM, pbRex said: @Polymer I totally get what Memphis meant but to me that wouldn't look ideal. I would much rather make it look like something from the factory. The gun often is available without a right side safety. Since looks seem to be important, that looks more factory than your factoryish plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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