Rjracing Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Looking for an affordable and readily available 115gr 9mm projectile to use with a few major loads I'm making up for my CZechmate. Now I know most copper plated bullets shouldn't be used for a 9mm thats traveling 1400-1500fps, but not all copper plating processes are equal I'm told. Ive tried a couple small batches of 115gr round nose Frontier CMJ (complete metal jacket) for testing with 8.4-8.6gr of HS6 w/ 1.160 OAL and they don't seem to be leading the barrel too bad after 150 rounds. Is it okay to continue using these for larger batches? What are you guys using? New to 9mm major, so thanks in advance for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Thickly plated bullets are fine. Rainier, Berry's and X-Treme all sell them. Make sure they are rated for 1500FPS before you order. BTW, it isn't barrel leading that should be worrying you, it's comp leading. You can buy Hornady 115gr HAP bullets (JHP) at Midsouth Shooters for $300 per 3000. Excellent bullets. Edited May 20, 2018 by zzt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Precision Delta JHP bullets are only 8.5 cents each if you buy 2,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 If your gun shoots tight groups with your current bullets, there's no reason to change. I use Montana Gold CMJ and am very content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I have always shot Montana Golds but I bought a bunch of Precision Delta for this season. Both great bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Precision Delta JHP bullets are only 8.5 cents each if you buy 2,000. This [emoji1312]. I did the same song and dance a several years ago when I built my G19 open gun. I’ve loaded Berry’s, Xtreme, MG, and PD in both 115 and 124gr varietals. I crunched the numbers six ways from Sunday, and at the end of the day for a couple cents more (if you buy in bulk, which you should) you can be shooting top of the line JHP instead of plated. When I started reloading I used exclusively lead projectiles. I even tried the coated lead. But now I don’t even bother. The only thing I even still use plated for is 147gr 9MM subsonic. For some odd reason FMJ or JHP don’t have the same ratio value that other calibers and weights do. 147gr .355 in JHP or FMJ are exorbitantly more expensive. Everything else is either FMJ or JHP. Well, that’s not entirely true. I shoot coated lead in my 300 Blackout Subsonic cause I’d go broke buying 220gr Jacketed Bullets to shoot in bulk.Precision Delta or Montana Gold are tough to beat. I have a box of 4500 95gr MG because that was the best deal on that weight and caliber at the time, and thousands of Precision Delta FMJs and JHPs because Precision Delta was cheaper on those weights and calibers at the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo929 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I’m shooting 115 blue Bullets. Still on first case. Just switched from 125’s. 8.6 HS6 is 170 in my gun at 1.160That’s in a Tanfo limited converted to openSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 A shooting buddy drank the Blue Bullets kool aid and now he's trying to figure out how to get all the lead out of his comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjones6686 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Two of my friends both use 115gr blue bullets with HS6 in their 9major open guns and have had no problems with lead in the comp. Between live fire practice, steel matches, and local USPSA matches they shoot 2k a month each. They would both reccomend them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalRex Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 +1 on the PD JHP. I use the 115g for minor and 124g for major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs1 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I've used 115 MG CMJ, 124 MG CMJ, and Im trying out some 124 PD JHP now. The 124s work out better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjracing Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Thanks for all the input guys! I placed a large order with PD for some 115gr JHP based on your recommendations. I’ve tried Barry’s (which have garbage plating IMO), Extreme (cabelas always has these on sale for cheap and my go to for minor), Blue bullets (had some inconsistencies) and Frontier (LGS stocks them for an okay price), hopefully these PD work out well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I tried the FMJ MG's and they leaded up my comp, badly. Now stick with JHP's, only, either MG, PD or RMR. The PD and RMR are tough to beat on price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stymie12000 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I have settled on blue bullets 115gr. No leading in barrel or comp. Good accuracy with hs6. They sell sample packs. See if it works in your barrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Precision delta all day long. This year so far I have 4500 through my open gun and have yet to start having comp buildup. I run pds with autocomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Another vote for Precision Delta. JHP,,some on the way now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just as an FYI, PD bullets are also available through Shooters Connection. If you need to pick up some gun parts, it makes it convenient to grab some bullets too https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Precision-Delta-C1091.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I used the 121 IFP MG for a long time. Great compromise bullet splitting the difference between 115 & 124. Last several cases have been 124 CMJ MG. 100% reliable. Someone was selling a 124 JHP with a rounded nose for competition, name escapes me right now. Thinking of those when I needed to order bullets. Side note, I opened my first bottle of WAC, 7.0gr. at 1.17" under the 124 MG. I like it so far, seems to dot bounce less than the 8.2 HS6 load I've been using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 10 hours ago, OPENB said: WAC, 7.0gr. seems to dot bounce less than the 8.2 HS6 load I've been using. My experience was the opposite - the HS6 "bounced" LESS than the WAC. BUT, I'm using WAC because the HS6 is so dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Precision Delta 124g FMJ. Still working on a load but it’s either going to be HS6 or Autocomp. I’m new at Open Major so it’s a work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, quiller said: Precision Delta 124g FMJ. Doesn't cost any more to use their JHP's, and that will save you a LOT of comp scrubbing down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Doesn't cost any more to use their JHP's, and that will save you a LOT of comp scrubbing down the road I just listed my 124's locally and will pick up some JHP. As a matter of interest will an Ultra Sonic cleaner take the lead out of a comp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 18 hours ago, quiller said: I just listed my 124's locally and will pick up some JHP. As a matter of interest will an Ultra Sonic cleaner take the lead out of a comp? Not that I'm aware of . Most have to soak in some concoction and scrape with a brass scraper. I just use pds and autocomp. No leading yet with over 4k rounds. My comp is ion bonded though so that might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 15 hours ago, tcazes said: Not that I'm aware of . Most have to soak in some concoction and scrape with a brass scraper. I just use pds and autocomp. No leading yet with over 4k rounds. My comp is ion bonded though so that might help. 15 hours ago, tcazes said: Not that I'm aware of . Most have to soak in some concoction and scrape with a brass scraper. I just use pds and autocomp. No leading yet with over 4k rounds. My comp is ion bonded though so that might help. The FMJ’s sold last night and I ordered JHP’s this am. I have almost a pound of autocomp that I’m going to test with. Hopefully I’ll be testing by the end of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 9 hours ago, quiller said: I ordered JHP’s . I have a pound of WAC that I’m going to test with. When I started out, I began with a "light" load of WAC - c PF 150, and worked with that for a while. Made sure the crimp, OAL were correct. Chrono'd the load MANY times. Worked up, slowly, with the chrono, to PF 160 and stayed there a while. Then I cautiously worked up to 167+. Needed about 6.6 - 7.2 gr WAC. Make sure you have a chrono, and use it frequently. Actually, loading 9mm Major with WAC and 124 gr bullets is not that dangerous. Scary to load up 2-300 fps faster than +P loads, but it's not bad at all, if you use common sense and work up slowly with a chrono. Worse thing you can do, actually, is not dump powder into your case before you seat the bullet - get a light and look into each and every case before you seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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