rootacres Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Hello all, I have been wondering this for a while and decided to test some things out. I have accumulated a few of the popular connectors and thought Id share my results. This entire test was done with the exact same Glock 34 and all the parts listed below. The only part that was changed on all these test was the connector (captain obvious). This was interesting to me, thought it may be interesting to you too. Gun: Glock 34 Gen 4 w/ ~6k rounds Parts: Zev 2lb striker spring Zev reduced power FPB spring TiN skeletolized striker Factory Trigger Return Spring Polished FPB OCC Trigger Note: The OCC trigger I use is a polished factory trigger bar with the "enhanced" shoe (same as a OEM shoe with a more comfortable safety tab). This trigger has the pre travel eliminator which I believe aids in getting more consistent trigger pulls on the gauge. I also have to overtravel ejector housing installed. Trigger Results (5 pulls w/ Lyman digital gauge) 1) TTI Minus connector (5k rounds) - 2lb 10oz avg. 2) Glock Minus Connector (new) - 2lb 13oz avg. 3) Zev V4 Race (1k rounds) - 3lb avg. 4) Glock Factory (off a sub 1k round G17) - 3lb 8oz avg. Summary - Surprise I have been a big fan of the TTI since I bought it and knew that it would be close in pull weight to my Zev V4. Something to consider in addition to pull weights is how crisp/spongy the break is. The nature of the Glock design does not lend itself well to having a clean sharp break. That being said, the TTI and minus connector had the least spongy break of the group, with the glock factory connector coming in 2nd and the Zev coming in 4th. The Zev is easily has the spongiest break of the lot. The surprise of the group was how well the factory minus connector did. Truth be told, if you want a good trigger without spending much cash, buy a Zev completion spring kit and a skeletolized striker. Call it a day. Any questions on how I did the test please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I always do a 10 pull average when I check trigger pull weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) which ever connector i may pitch in my glocks,i always work them some more to extract the best trigger feel and break weight......i tried'em all,and i settled on the V4 unit because in combo with the comp spring kit and skelton striker with a 2lbs spring,it's the one who provides the best ''break like glass''' trigger and the lowest weight pull. my G17 is at a clean 2.1 lbs G35 at a crisp 2.3lbs G34 at 2.8lbs G22 at 2.5 rolling break i'm using a lyman trigger scale. Edited May 19, 2018 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootacres Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 11 hours ago, sigsauerfan said: which ever connector i may pitch in my glocks,i always work them some more to extract the best trigger feel and break weight......i tried'em all,and i settled on the V4 unit because in combo with the comp spring kit and skelton striker with a 2lbs spring,it's the one who provides the best ''break like glass''' trigger and the lowest weight pull. my G17 is at a clean 2.1 lbs G35 at a crisp 2.3lbs G34 at 2.8lbs G22 at 2.5 rolling break i'm using a lyman trigger scale. Intersting, I know a had another glock 34 in past and had similar results to yours. I too landed on the V4 connector for that gun, with this G34 its the complete opposite. I wonder if the hook on the strikers are slightly different from brand to brand. That would probably contribute to different trigger feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/18/2018 at 9:56 PM, sigsauerfan said: which ever connector i may pitch in my glocks,i always work them some more to extract the best trigger feel and break weight......i tried'em all,and i settled on the V4 unit because in combo with the comp spring kit and skelton striker with a 2lbs spring,it's the one who provides the best ''break like glass''' trigger and the lowest weight pull. my G17 is at a clean 2.1 lbs G35 at a crisp 2.3lbs G34 at 2.8lbs G22 at 2.5 rolling break i'm using a lyman trigger scale. That is actually a 4# striker spring. There are no 2# striker springs for Glocks and they would not function properly with one if it was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjones6686 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Last Glock I had got the Taran minus connector. Local shooter had a Glock 35 ready to shred limited gun package he bought from Taran Tactical. After feeling his trigger it made the decision for me to buy the Taran minus connector. I was very happy with the outcome of the trigger compared to a stock gen4 trigger. Edited May 20, 2018 by bjones6686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjbe Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Thanks for this - been thinking about trading my zev for a TTI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, JBP55 said: That is actually a 4# striker spring. There are no 2# striker springs for Glocks and they would not function properly with one if it was available. what are you talking about? the zev comp spring kit has the 2 lbs striker spring or the standard one(3lbs).........and it work perfectly. you should check your facts before leaving random blurps and false affirmations running around this forum has been known as a site where the infos provided by their members are nearly 100% valid. don't change that with ''anything goes'''' posts please .... Edited May 21, 2018 by sigsauerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Yeah... He's right though.Zev calls their springs 2# but they are the equivalent of other brands' 4# spring.If it were literally a 2# spring rate, it would fail to work. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 no. when talking with GERRY at zev,it's clear he label them 2lbs striker springs....3lbs striker spring.... or perhaps the product manager at zev is wrong?.....meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, sigsauerfan said: Try running a Glock with a FPS that is only 36%no. when talking with GERRY at zev,it's clear he label them 2lbs striker springs....3lbs striker spring.... or perhaps the product manager at zev is wrong?.....meh! I have used many springs including possibly 100 made by Zev. I had this conversation with Zev and voiced my concern for the misleading advertising. I have compared the so called 2 pound spring to other 4 pound springs and they are basically the same. Zev stated that their best complete trigger kit including the so called 2 pound spring resulted in a 2 pound trigger pull weight. I have worked on more than 100 Glocks and tested the trigger pull weight on each one a minimum of 10 times. I am willing to bet $100 No Zev FPS is actually at 2 pounds which would give a trigger pull weight approximately 20 oz. lighter than a 4 pound Wolff spring. Try running a Glock with a FPS that is only 36% as strong as the OEM spring and let us know how it works. Put your money where your mouth is! Edited May 21, 2018 by JBP55 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootacres Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, JBP55 said: I have used many springs including possibly 100 made by Zev. I had this conversation with Zev and voiced my concern for the misleading advertising. I have compared the so called 2 pound spring to other 4 pound springs and they are basically the same. Zev stated that their best complete trigger kit including the so called 2 pound spring resulted in a 2 pound trigger pull weight. I have worked on more than 100 Glocks and tested the trigger pull weight on each one a minimum of 10 times. I am willing to bet $100 No Zev FPS is actually at 2 pounds which would give a trigger pull weight approximately 20 oz. lighter than a 4 pound Wolff spring. Try running a Glock with a FPS that is only 36% as strong as the OEM spring and let us know how it works. Put your money where your mouth is! Would a 4lb Wolff spring yield similar pull weights to a ZEV 2lb? Just curious, I didn't know they all differed from one another so much (advertised weight vs actual). Or would a Wolff 3lb be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, sigsauerfan said: no. when talking with GERRY at zev,it's clear he label them 2lbs striker springs....3lbs striker spring.... or perhaps the product manager at zev is wrong?.....meh! I doubt hes wrong, you probably just didn't ask the right question, or understand his answer. This a not a 2# striker spring. It would not set off primers, and the trigger most likely wouldn't reset. It is the spring rate ZEV thinks is necessary for a 2# trigger break, so they label it "2# PULL". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Most manufacturers label their springs with the weight of the actual spring, e.g., 4lbs. Zev labels their striker springs by the weight of the resultant trigger pull if you use that spring, 2 or 3 lbs. So the Zev 2lb spring is the same as a Wolff 4lb spring, they're just labeled differently (and Zev's method of labeling their striker springs is dumb). 18 hours ago, emjbe said: Thanks for this - been thinking about trading my zev for a TTI I have both connectors and they feel pretty much the same to me. I was just swapping between them yesterday and barely felt any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, rootacres said: Would a 4lb Wolff spring yield similar pull weights to a ZEV 2lb? Just curious, I didn't know they all differed from one another so much (advertised weight vs actual). Or would a Wolff 3lb be better? Yes, the 4# Wolff is basically the same as a Zev that is "labeled as 2#". Wolff makes 4#, 4.5#, 5#, 5.5#, and 6# FPS. The 2 most commonly used are 4# with a lightweight striker and a 4.5# with the OEM striker. The 4# spring "may" cause light strikes as well as weak reset or failure to reset with the OEM striker. Anything less than the 4# FPS should be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkamps Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Good info, thank you. I have found on glocks that the same parts don't always yield the same results from gun to gun. Have to play around with it sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootacres Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, JBP55 said: Yes, the 4# Wolff is basically the same as a Zev that is "labeled as 2#". Wolff makes 4#, 4.5#, 5#, 5.5#, and 6# FPS. The 2 most commonly used are 4# with a lightweight striker and a 4.5# with the OEM striker. The 4# spring "may" cause light strikes as well as weak reset or failure to reset with the OEM striker. Anything less than the 4# FPS should be avoided. Yeah, every time I start trying to drop the pull weight on Glocks I use a skeletolized striker. I just ordered a lightweight titanium striker for one of my 34s. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootacres Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 Ive seen a few posts about this recently, bumping it too the top to see if it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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