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Did some load testing with prima sv, first tested with 4.1 gr over 180 Bbi with a oal of 1.175. The highest spread being 19fps. Hit 174 pf. Bumped it down to 3.9 hit 166 pf. Tuned it to 3.97 and I'm right around 169pf. Shot a match this weekend with it super soft and sights came back every time. I'm super impressed with this powder. I won't be going back to n320. 

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My chrono data yesterday

 

Atlas Titan 5"

Mixed brass

Win SPP

Prima SV batch PB15270

 

 

Blue Bullets 180 gr .400" @1.250"

 

Prima SV 4.15 gr
905
910
904
912
913
912
897
912
913
898
Hi 914
Lo897
Av 907
ES 16
SD 6

4.2 gr prima sv
924
913
924
933
924
915
927
922
901
HI933
Lo901
AV920
ES32
SD 9

4.2 prima SV (2nd string) 
933
931
924
918
918
931
922
927
925
895
HI933
LO895
AV 922
ES38
SD10
 

 

180 gr xtrme .400" @1.185"


4.5 gr prima SV
913
917
927
929
942
917
923
927
954
911
HI 954
Lo911
AV 926
ES 43
SD 13

 

I've noticed no smoke even with lead! Accuracy is as good as anything I've shot!  

 

 

Though, hope nobody buys this stuff. Cause prices will go up!

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2 hours ago, muncie21 said:

Thanks for sharing @B_RAD the PF with the xtremes is a bit too close to min for my liking, however this info provides a good starting point for me. Thanks!

Yes.  I agree. I'm switching to coated because I felt I'd need to bump it up to 4.6-4.7 gr. I'm nervous that's getting close to too much pressure. Not that I saw any signs of it. 

 

With coted I'm gonna go to 4.3 and that'll be good. 

 

I'd also pay attention to which batch you have. I know last year there were some changes and different batches resluted in different fps with the same charge. 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/21/2018 at 7:31 AM, B_RAD said:

My chrono data yesterday

 

Atlas Titan 5"

Mixed brass

Win SPP

Prima SV batch PB15270

 

 

Blue Bullets 180 gr .400" @1.250"

 

Prima SV 4.15 gr
905
910
904
912
913
912
897
912
913
898
Hi 914
Lo897
Av 907
ES 16
SD 6

4.2 gr prima sv
924
913
924
933
924
915
927
922
901
HI933
Lo901
AV920
ES32
SD 9

4.2 prima SV (2nd string) 
933
931
924
918
918
931
922
927
925
895
HI933
LO895
AV 922
ES38
SD10
 

 

180 gr xtrme .400" @1.185"


4.5 gr prima SV
913
917
927
929
942
917
923
927
954
911
HI 954
Lo911
AV 926
ES 43
SD 13

 

I've noticed no smoke even with lead! Accuracy is as good as anything I've shot!  

 

 

Though, hope nobody buys this stuff. Cause prices will go up!

Why are you loading so far out on the coated bullets, ????  I think if you stay at 1.185 you will be fine at 4.1 gr 

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25 minutes ago, Furrly said:

Why are you loading so far out on the coated bullets, ????  I think if you stay at 1.185 you will be fine at 4.1 gr 

I was at 1.185" with the Xtreme bullets. The blues have a longer OAL so they extend further even though the base of the bullet is roughly in the same spot inside the case as the Xtreme. 

 

The blues feed 100% so far even at the longer OAL. So, I didn't feel the need to shorten them up. 

 

I'm also getting roughly the same fps with the coated and plated with the 8% increase for plated.  So, to me everything seems legit. 

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

I shot a few 100 rounds of 4.3gr of SV with BBI 180's today.  OAL 1.135.  No chrono, but they did feel just a soft as N320.  No change in accuracy.  Meters very nicely through the Dillion 650.  I imagine I will chrono them at the Kansas sectional this weekend.  Hope they make power factor.  Shooting a CZ CTS. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Has anyone compared Prima SV to Clays with 200 gr lead coated  loaded to major PF as far as felt recoil goes?  Thanks   Ps .40 cal.

 

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4 minutes ago, jstagn said:

Has anyone compared Prima SV to Clays with 200 gr lead coated  loaded to major PF as far as felt recoil goes?  Thanks 

 

Yes, Clays will blow up and Prima SV wont. Who cares what the felt recoil is if its going to blow up.

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Have a friend that just quit shooting clays in major 180 ,and some 200 . He ran out, been shooting that stuff for years,never blew up any of his guns..

I shot lots of it in my revolver in 45 major it was the go to load.

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Clays + 40 Major is like riding a dirt bike. It’s a lot of fun until you crash. And it’s not a matter of if you crash it’s a matter of when because the crash will happen.

 

I stopped using Clays in 40 Major after a case head separation mid stage run at the nationals caused me to zero the stage. That wasn’t my only case head separation either while using that powder. Probably 15-20 of them over the 50k+ of Clays I shot. At some point  the soft felt recoil of Clays isn’t worth the risk. 

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