mikamarj Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: The Super 1050 is a decades old machine, and a revision of previous models like the RL 1000. It’s been troubleshooted by Dillon and by companies making aftermarket modifications, like Level10’s awesome toolhead spring and cup. In two years the Evo will be equally bug free, and I may consider grabbing one. I had a RL 1050. Based on my experience, the Evolution Pro is already light years ahead of Dillon. No, not two years from now -- but NOW. It is already there. Still a new product, might have some things that needs to be fixed etc, but it is already better than what was available earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikamarj Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 hours ago, LowBoost said: Thanks for the info. Will order the Red'n'Tacky #2 and MolyCoat. I got a few sensors except Decap and Low Primer sensors which I guess I will need sooner than later. I would also recommend using a grease gun with a needle nozzle, something like: https://www.amazon.com/CARBYNE-Grease-Needle-Nozzle-Threads/dp/B01NCRWGBZ ...instead of the syringe recommended by Mark 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, mikamarj said: I had a RL 1050. Based on my experience, the Evolution Pro is already light years ahead of Dillon. No, not two years from now -- but NOW. It is already there. Still a new product, might have some things that needs to be fixed etc, but it is already better than what was available earlier. I agree it’s heads above the rest looking at it compared to the 1050 but all the problems and bugs people are having plus the lack of stock and production numbers swayed me to the dillon. Also presses are being shipped missing sensors and parts due to not having enough in stock etc. I wouldn’t want to buy one right now due to these things especially having to wait so long and as much as these presses cost and you get it missing things you need and ordered. That’s why I am waiting till they get it together and there’s no issues or lack of parts and upgrades like there is now. By no way am I knocking them because I definitely want one but it’s new and these types of problems are expected but I’d rather wait till they have it 100%. If it was I’d have an evo pro instead of my new 1050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) I don't believe there are any major "problems and bugs" except the powder dispenser. I understand spare parts stock is somewhat limited but it is due to the high volume of orders and some slight improvements to some products, so it makes sense to keep a low inventory on those. Luckily, it seems all my sensors were shipped in my order. When I spoke with them and inquired about my order status two weeks ago, I was told a few changes were included in that batch of machines that were shipping out. I was in a hurry, so I didn't ask for specifics, but that is evidence they are listening and constantly striving to improve the products. I am positive they have it almost "together" or you would be hearing of a lot more issues. Sadly, forums are usually used to express issues or dissatisfaction of products/companies and rarely you read any praise or hear from happy customers. I am willing to bet there are at least 1,000+ of these presses out in the wild and you have been reading of the same two or three issues over the past 6 months. Other than that, everyone seems to agree it is light years ahead of the "Blue". I will validate and corroborate that on Wednesday. Edited January 1, 2019 by LowBoost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Dirtchevy841 said: I agree it’s heads above the rest looking at it compared to the 1050 but all the problems and bugs people are having plus the lack of stock and production numbers swayed me to the dillon. Also presses are being shipped missing sensors and parts due to not having enough in stock etc. I wouldn’t want to buy one right now due to these things especially having to wait so long and as much as these presses cost and you get it missing things you need and ordered. That’s why I am waiting till they get it together and there’s no issues or lack of parts and upgrades like there is now. By no way am I knocking them because I definitely want one but it’s new and these types of problems are expected but I’d rather wait till they have it 100%. If it was I’d have an evo pro instead of my new 1050 I don't think there are any bugs out there that have not been addressed. I can't speak for the sensor availability, but I'd bet considering the lead time on machines by the time yours ships the sensors should be available for it. The funny thing is you mention Dillon as being reliable and then list a litany of third party add-ons that you bought to make it work better. Yes, if you were to place an order now, you will have to wait and it does cost more. So, for instant gratification and lower cost the 1050 with the add-ons is a good choice. For me as an early adaptor of the Revolution I'd still order it despite the growing pains I had. The tech support to fix my issues was great and they were very responsive. Also, for anyone ordering an Evo Pro or a Revolution I would recommend the day of training on site option with your machine. Not only for hands on training with your machine, but also to get to know the tech support people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) "Mrs Brown" showed up at my door this evening with three boxes! Upon unboxing and staring at it for a while, comparing a Dillon to this is like comparing a Ford T Model (1927) to a Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce! Now I understand what everyone was talking about. I am not fully aware of all the revisions, but based on some previous photos and videos, I see two of the "upgrades" I was told. Edited January 3, 2019 by LowBoost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, LowBoost said: "Mrs Brown" showed up at my door this evening with three boxes! Upon unboxing and staring at it for a while, comparing a Dillon to this is like comparing a Ford T Model (1927) to a Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce! Now I understand what everyone was talking about. I am not fully aware of all the revisions, but based on some previous photos and videos, I see two of the "upgrades" I was told. You broke it already? Duh! See you figured out that the bolts to mount the Evo press to the autodrive base plate come with the autodrive, not the press. Makes sense, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Yes, I figured it out as I unboxed the autodrive and found them along the sprocket bag. Now I am trying to find instructions for the EMI in-line filter for the bullet feeder. I replaced the factory micro-switch with the new one supplied and installed the in-line filter as well. There is still another filter that I can't figure out where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcity Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, LowBoost said: Yes, I figured it out as I unboxed the autodrive and found them along the sprocket bag. Now I am trying to find instructions for the EMI in-line filter for the bullet feeder. I replaced the factory micro-switch with the new one supplied and installed the in-line filter as well. There is still another filter that I can't figure out where it goes. One thought. Dont bother with the emi filters. Get a good UPS with surge protection. Run the evo pro off the battery backup side of the UPS. A quality ups will feed clean power to your auto drive from the battery. Run the case feeder, bullet feeder, etc... off the surge (non battery) side of the UPS. Circuits are isolated, emi wont feed to the auto drive. Was having some electrical issues with mine I was initially running off the same circuit without the filters. Figured its worth some extra $$ to feed the auto drive clean power. Implemented the above configuration and everything runs great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashDodson Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Know that the cheap desktop UPS's do not correct the sine wave. If your getting a UPS for cleaner power as well as protection you need a "smart ups". Here are some cost effective examples: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N192?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=AgEAAAAAAAAAASIZ https://www.amazon.com/APC-Sinewave-Battery-Protector-BR1500MS/dp/B0779LDRWZ https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/887781-REG/APC_smc1500_Smart_UPS_C_1500VA_with.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAiAgrfhBRA3EiwAnfF4tvERjF5ZR9kcssd1xlZBybkkZguuCghxOvzAvNx3YuWg5VvxD3YwyRoC42EQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashDodson Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 The reason for the filters is to block interference created by the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, CrashDodson said: The reason for the filters is to block interference created by the motor. I'm thinking of covering the motor in tinfoil. Keeps the EMF to minimum and keeps the CIA from stealing the motor's thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashDodson Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Thats a great idea. Will also keep random reloading supplies from showing up at your door from Amazon if your Alexa is too close to your press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 LOL - I almost choke with the laughs! I have a few of the APC SMC-1500 for QNAPs and other stuff, but they are overkill for the Evo Pro. I'll stop by and get the CyberPower 1000. They are pretty decent and priced even better. I will continue set-up later tonight. The more I looked at it last night, the more I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, LowBoost said: The more I looked at it last night, the more I liked it. I did the same thing when I got mine. Took it out and placed it on the dining room table and drooled for a very long time. 2 days later I was asked to move it....however, even my better 1/2 was impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 With those of you with the powder check sensor. I guess you had to flip the powder dispenser in order to fit the housing assembly? There is no way it fits with the dispenser looking towards the front (I can't find this in the instructions either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcity Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, LowBoost said: With those of you with the powder check sensor. I guess you had to flip the powder dispenser in order to fit the housing assembly? There is no way it fits with the dispenser looking towards the front (I can't find this in the instructions either). Yes. Mine had to rotate such that the back of the powder drop is facing the powder sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenmat Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 This is how mine is installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Al: I responded to you in the M7 forum and included some photos. I have clearance issues, so I will try rotating the powder drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Well, everything went smooth so far with the exception of the case feeder DOA. And now after I rotated the powder drop and powder sensor fits OK, the table will not power back on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenmat Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I had this problem, make sure the upper arm holding the tablet is not pressing on the volume keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikamarj Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Anyone else have noticed charge variations dependent of the speed machine is operating at? I was loading some 9mm major with a friend. 6.8gr of Winchester Autocomp, which makes the IPSC open major PF. That charge was measured while running the machine at 1000 per hour. Then when everything was dialled in, we ran "production batch" at 1600-1900 per hour (plus some index slowdowns and bottom dwell). Now the charge was only 6.7gr. Quickly tested 2200/hour and that was only 6.5gr! (Yes, I did check that the powder measure adjustment screw was tight, hadn't moved at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashDodson Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Allenmat said: This is how mine is installed. That's pretty close to the way mine is setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Yup - As Allemat told me, I had to lower the die. (I would have noticed if I would have lowered it almost all the way down and start there instead). Setting up the dies is a breeze and with my testing, very consistent COAL even with mixed brass. (This helps tremendously for people like me with OCD!) Now I just need to set up the powder dispenser. The lock nut is REALLY tight and I don't want to mar it with tools. The only "major" issues now are the case feeder and tablet. I am SO glad I didn't cancel my order, it was definitely well worth the wait! Edited January 6, 2019 by LowBoost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Soooooo are we there yet? I currently own 1 X , and 2 PRo's , looking to do the jump to evo or revo. I've been happy with the features and the upgrades, I was an early adopter and have watched them grow and get more and more cool features. I have my dillons dialed in to the point when I load pre-prepped brass I will get a sideways bullet 1 in 1000 and stuff is pretty much flawless. heck, with same headstamp brass, I can get 10 rounds at 4 SD the variable powder drop, is that only for electronic powder measure? or also the mechanical one? They did recently send out a mail that a lot of issues with the machines had been adressed. can anyone confirm issues has been adressed? Also, 11 or 14" casefeeder? For bulletfeeder Im going pro, dont feel like rubberbands. Sadly no time for SHOT this year, but waiting for what kind of goodstuff they gonna show Edited January 7, 2019 by ano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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