Hammer002 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Ok, reading and reading, and learning. Thinking of going Open with the 9mm CZ Czechmate. Both for USPSA competition and steel challenge light loads with light springs. Opinions? Currently shoot a full custom Tactical Sports in limited for uspsa. Want to be able to capitalize on the idea it can be used for both applications and that I keep reading the Czechmate is one of the most reliable open guns. Not new to reloading, but never done 9mm major, and respect its concerns. Looking for some discussion nd maybe experiences. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 They are great guns. Things to do right away: Send mags to Beven Grams for tuning. Send barrel(s) to Beven for throating. Replace factory safeties with Shadow 2 safeties. With those changes I think they are every bit as good as a 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Gooldylocks said: They are great guns. Things to do right away: Send mags to Beven Grams for tuning. Send barrel(s) to Beven for throating. Replace factory safeties with Shadow 2 safeties. With those changes I think they are every bit as good as a 2011. Good info. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The Czechmate is a great shooter and I'm working on making it better with a lightweight comp option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accu9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Czechmates are fantastic open guns, they flat out run. They need nothing other than mag tuning (as with 2011's) and to ream the barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, accu9 said: Czechmates are fantastic open guns, they flat out run. They need nothing other than mag tuning (as with 2011's) and to ream the barrels. I am anti-mag tuning (that's the whole reason I don't shoot my 2011s!) so I only use MG CMJ and haven't had an issue since I switched from JHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, kneelingatlas said: I am anti-mag tuning (that's the whole reason I don't shoot my 2011s!) so I only use MG CMJ and haven't had an issue since I switched from JHP. How many do you get in your 170s? Because everyone I know has had issues with their mags. With tuning 28-29 is easy and reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accu9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, kneelingatlas said: I am anti-mag tuning (that's the whole reason I don't shoot my 2011s!) so I only use MG CMJ and haven't had an issue since I switched from JHP. My magazines would not run regardless of bullet profile until Beven worked his magic with the tubes. Super fast turn around and he did an excellent job. 23-24 in the 140's and 28-29 in the 170's (CZC basepads and Grams springs/ follower). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 That's unfortunate, I use CZC pads/springs/followers with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 What bullet weight do you guys prefer in your Czechmates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accu9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 115gr bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 hours ago, cheby said: What bullet weight do you guys prefer in your Czechmates? 115gr MG CMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Gooldylocks said: How many do you get in your 170s? Because everyone I know has had issues with their mags. With tuning 28-29 is easy and reliable. 29+1 every time When I pushed my loaded rounds through a 38 super sizing die I got 30+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 This has turned into a great bunch of info. Thanks guys. So I know the gun I want. Know who is going to tune it and what parts to use. Now on to loading nuclear 9mm education.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Hammer002 said: Now on to loading nuclear 9mm education.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, kneelingatlas said: What's your go to load for the CZ CM using 115gr fmj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Furrly said: What's your go to load for the CZ CM using 115gr fmj 9.4gr SP2 under a 115gr MG CMJ @ 1.170" 3N38 can substitute for SP2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, kneelingatlas said: 9.4gr SP2 under a 115gr MG CMJ @ 1.170" 3N38 can substitute for SP2. Thanks, you ever use hs6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Furrly said: Thanks, you ever use hs6 Yes, it's a little dirtier, a little more muzzle rise, but it's pretty good; I prefer HS6 over WAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, kneelingatlas said: Yes, it's a little dirtier, a little more muzzle rise, but it's pretty good; I prefer HS6 over WAC. Any load data you could share with hs6 would be appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Furrly said: Any load data you could share with hs6 would be appreciated. Thanks 8.7-8.9gr under a 115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, kneelingatlas said: 8.7-8.9gr under a 115 thank you sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honkeymcgee Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I used to own a Czechmate and I was pretty pleased with it. I have since gone to a 2011 but not due to how the gun shot. A few things I would advise. On the mag tuning, no need to send them off, it cam easily be done with a couple of drill bits and a vice. Do a search in my profile for a review of the Czechmate that shows it. I throated mine myself but you can make major without doing it. A throwing reamer is about fifty bucks and easy to do yourself. Just take your time if you decide to do it. Don't try to go too light on springs. The only real trouble I ever had with mine was trying to go too light and having rounds not go into battery all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewpewlife Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Great info! Should have my CM soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tc2415 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) EG Rn jhp v2, 7.4 gr WAC, win spp. 1.145. 28 in my 170's, 23 in my 140's. Edited June 23, 2018 by Tc2415 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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