bonglee0507 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Since when did STI outsourced their frames to SK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I know their barrels used to be made in South Korea so this is not surprising to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverscooby27 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I just bought a Trojan .45 and it’s not marked Korea anywhere (phew!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I'd have to call BS on that.........and if they are really out sourcing their 2011 frames, they should go out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 None of my STI's have that Korean inscription, maybe they're the Pacific region distributor and they roll stamp the frames for advertising. Or Foreign STI's are machined in Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Isnt this fairly common knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK66 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) I saw several complete 1911 and 2011's with this roll mark on GB about a month ago. I called STI and they confirmed that were legit. Edited March 4, 2018 by TK66 Add info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, dansedgli said: Isnt this fairly common knowledge? +1 Dasan has been building parts for them for a very long time now, as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 +1 Dasan has been building parts for them for a very long time now, as I understand it. Yes but i didn’t know that they also build frames for STI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Gooldylocks said: +1 Dasan has been building parts for them for a very long time now, as I understand it. Do they make STI slides too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, jpl said: Do they make STI slides too?? Dunno, I know they make barrels and small parts. Don't know what else, but it wouldn't be surprising. Lots of companies contract out parts manufacturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Dasan is very modern company with ISO 9001 standard and good QC. now they products is very well made . the cost is low but quality is o.k. for me personally is more important to have best quality product and not where it's made. did somebody have problems with this frames or slides? many best gun companies use their gun parts. the only bad things that i saw about STI on this forum is few guns with poor gunsmith workmanship . and that is STI problem only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwansikcjswo Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Made by Roof Koreans, good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Yeah, they do. It's just a major move from a few years ago when STI said that they manufactured ALL of their parts, except springs and pins, in house. Their parts quality took a major dive about the time they partnered with Armscor on the Spartan. They had a major problem with slides cracking about 2 years ago. Both as parts they sold as well as their complete pistols. I got a slide from them in November that you couldn't get the reverse plug into the cut in the slide when the pistol was assembled and I had to re-cut it. I also had 4 builds crack slides with as low as 30 rounds on the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, jpl said: Yeah, they do. It's just a major move from a few years ago when STI said that they manufactured ALL of their parts, except springs and pins, in house. Their parts quality took a major dive about the time they partnered with Armscor on the Spartan. They had a major problem with slides cracking about 2 years ago. Both as parts they sold as well as their complete pistols. I got a slide from them in November that you couldn't get the reverse plug into the cut in the slide when the pistol was assembled and I had to re-cut it. I also had 4 builds crack slides with as low as 30 rounds on the pistol. that's very sad. i know about one company that inspect again all parts that they receive from outside companies including hardness of the parts to ensure that metal will not cracks. i think that sti can do it too. but for this they need to spend more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonglee0507 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Do they make STI slides too??Yes they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIO Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Raise prices, lower quality. Sounds like somebody in the Marketing department took over. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'd been hearing for the past couple years about STI sourcing parts from overseas. A couple times people told me with absolute certainty that they were getting the Spartan frame and slides from RIA. Not sure if that was true but I'd heard it a couple times. I'm a little surprised that the Edge is being sourced from overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 assembled in texas, not made in texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 i think that good responsible gunsmith more important than where parts made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverscooby27 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I think that both are important and realize that different things are important to different people. I think this is especially true for a brand that markets itself as “handmade in Texas”. Most of us who do find where the pistol is made important, find that a bit misleading. It obviously doesn’t matter to most people, else the business would not survive. I like an American 1911 in the same way as I like a Swiss Rolex or a German Porsche, or a Japanese sushi knife. There is something special in my mind about an item made in the place where it originated, with maybe an inaccurate belief that the people in that place know that item best, take pride in their accomplishment, and make these items with special attention because it is their baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) O.K. us pride is important . US is known about their pro gunsmiths that even from "garbage" can build masterpiece """""""""""""and make these items with special attention because it is their baby.""""""""""" - and about this - maybe from this reason STI customers have problems that explained in this forum(it's not their babies) Edited March 10, 2018 by yigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 12 hours ago, GIO said: Raise prices, lower quality. Sounds like somebody in the Marketing department took over. Sad. Unfortunately, this is becoming the norm in a lot of industries. We as consumers can vote with our wallets, but for so many, the difference in cost sometimes outweighs the perceived benefits. I just bought a cheap Yi action camera that was made in China that is pretty awesome, does slow-mo, etc. rather than buying a more expensive GoPro. So we are all guilty of this to an extent. However in my mind, a gun should be a work of art, and craftsmanship always trumps price... at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIO Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Electronics (most) are a good example of cost over quality because they are pretty much disposable. One of the only things good about getting older is you finally realize you should never have low quality Shoes, Guns or Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 41 minutes ago, GIO said: Electronics (most) are a good example of cost over quality because they are pretty much disposable. One of the only things good about getting older is you finally realize you should never have low quality Shoes, Guns or Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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