nighttrain Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Any one using p.p. with 165 gr . Extream fmj , I sent a e-mail to Alliant asking about a starting load , the reply was a generic answer, any one have any information for me ? "We do not have tested load data for the X-treme bullet line." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Start with someone's coated bullet load. The extremes will be slower so you can work your way up from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Nighttrain, what are you trying to do with this load? What will it be used for? I can't personally think of anything I would want to do with 9mm where 165gr and Power Pistol would be simultaneously appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/reloading-heavy-bullets-in-9mm-luger/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighttrain Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 52 minutes ago, IDescribe said: Nighttrain, what are you trying to do with this load? What will it be used for? I can't personally think of anything I would want to do with 9mm where 165gr and Power Pistol would be simultaneously appropriate. Im planning on using these for shooting in uspsa , production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighttrain Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 59 minutes ago, superdude said: http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/reloading-heavy-bullets-in-9mm-luger/ Awesome, thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, nighttrain said: Awesome, thankyou Sure. Be sure to work your load up. Happy shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Nighttrain, people use 165gr bullets for 9mm minor for a recoil advantage. It sort of defeats the purpose if you use a slow burning powder with it. Slower powders require more powder to reach the same velocity, and more powder for the same velocity equals greater recoil. Power Pistol is not a common powder for 9mm minor for the exact reason. It burns too slow to be a good choice for 9mm minor. Power pistol is also one of those powders that works best near or at max loads, which you won't be at. And it's excessively noisy and flashy. It's just not a powder well-suited to 9mm minor. You can DO it, of course. I just can't imagine why anyone would want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
223to45 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I run xtreme 165's.The thing you need to be careful with is case volume, with 165's there is not much case volume left.Never used power pistol, so depending on how much powder it takes it may not have enough room.Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, 223to45 said: I run xtreme 165's. The thing you need to be careful with is case volume, with 165's there is not much case volume left. Never used power pistol, so depending on how much powder it takes it may not have enough room. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk There is room for it, hence the data at the posted link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel855 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Nighttrain, I have not loaded 165, however a 147 FP ibeji coated bullet, 3.9 PP 1.130 oal runs 910 fps 22es/9sd temp 76 out of 5" R/O accurate and soft shooting. I prefer this combo to tight group. Power Pistol is a very versatile powder, check out Hornadays 9th edition reloading manuel ( 9mm section). I read the link above from S/T seems to be pretty accurate info. At the end of the day its your personal preference or perception of how the load works for you, experimenting is the beauty of reloading (safely of course) have fun with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmo Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I've used Power Pistol in my 929 with a .358 160 grain bullet (Black bullets and Bayou's) with good success. 3.8 grains seated to 1.160 oal gives me a 130.5 pf. I'm using that same powder charge in my XDM 5.25 with a .356 147 grain bullet seated at 1.140 oal and getting a 129 pf. I've found Power Pistol to be very versatile and accurate in 38 short colt....9 mm and 45 acp. There maybe better powders for reduced recoil...less noise and flash and a multitude of other reasons but I have a bunch of it that needs to be shot up and it works pretty good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Doctrine usually dictates a fast powder with a heavy-for-caliber bullet choice. I would want a faster powder like TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Power Pistol is manly. It will give a bright flash and loud report that will amaze your friends. When I was using my one can, I commonly heard: "What have you got in that thing?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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