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I’ve been running a Springfield RO 9mm for a year in IDPA and it’s a great shooter. The fit and finish isn’t what I would like but it is accurate and reliable. I just picked up some Wilson 10 round mags and went to town. 

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I saw only one other vote for the Colt Competition. I bought one a couple months ago and love it. You get a great quality pistol for the price. It has definitely made me a lover of 9mm 1911s. It probably won’t be my last.

I use it for IDPA matches and changed out a few parts such as putting in an extended magazine release, but it is competition ready out of the box.

Good luck on your choice.

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Thanks for speaking up. A shop nearby has an RO marked down to move that’s tempting me. Right now I have the budget for that gun but would have to slowly over time invest in competition-ready upgrades. On the other hand, my fave local shop has a Colt Competition and every time I tickle it, it feels good. Seems like an after-break-in tune and a half dozen Dawson mags, it’d be a SS minor machine. Unfortunately, This might mean some delayed gratification as it’s price is a bit north of the present balance in the fun money account.


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You can find several Dan Wesson PM9's on Gunbroker for around $1350 NIB.

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My 9mms are an elderly SA and an even older Colt 1991A1.  The Colt is a good shooter but with its GI ramp is very finicky as to magazine and bullet.  I would get something with an integral ramp in the small calibers.  A local gunsmith says that if you want to start with a working gun instead of having him assemble one out of parts, he prefers to work on Springfields. 

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On 3/14/2018 at 8:51 PM, BwanaG said:

Dan Wesson claims 42.3 oz. for the Specialist in 9mm. That must not include the magazine?


I think you're right. Stock, the Specialist looks a lot like the pistol I just purchased: Heinie sights, short rail, SA type mag well.

My STI HexTac is tri-topped and weighed 42.7oz with a metalform 10rd magazine and VZ grips.  The Specialist is has a standard slide profile and minimally longer rail, so I'd expect it to be heavier.

The main caveat to this comment is that my STI has a full length steel guide rod and I think the DW uses the GI system and I don't know how much weight that would contribute. 

I'm sure you can make the DW meet weight with the rail and round top slide, might take an aluminum MSH and lighter grips though.

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I like my STI Trojans - very reliable and consistent.

I wouldn't mind a Dan Wesson PM9 either, I think they might be a little nicer, but functionally I think they are very similar.

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3 hours ago, davidb72 said:

I like my STI Trojans - very reliable and consistent.

I wouldn't mind a Dan Wesson PM9 either, I think they might be a little nicer, but functionally I think they are very similar.

Functionally, fit, finish etc of the PM-9 is so much better than a Trojan.

PM-9 puts the current Trojans in the Philippine made 1911 class

No similarity at all

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5 minutes ago, jcc7x7 said:

Functionally, fit, finish etc of the PM-9 is so much better than a Trojan.

PM-9 puts the current Trojans in the Philippine made 1911 class

No similarity at all

 

my only gripe about the pm9 is the full-weight slide. i think the gun would run better with a flat-topped slide to take a little weight off. Mine also has a very tight frame/slide fit, so it prefers 135-140pf ammo.

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1 minute ago, motosapiens said:

 

my only gripe about the pm9 is the full-weight slide. i think the gun would run better with a flat-topped slide to take a little weight off. Mine also has a very tight frame/slide fit, so it prefers 135-140pf ammo.

I agree, lighter slide wold be nice

Mine have run smoother in the 135 + range also, 9 lbs vari Wolff spring

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I just got my wife set up with a RO Elite Target 9mm for single stack, and I'm pretty happy with it.  Ran out of the box, accuracy is good, and fit/finish are solid for the price range.  All I did was put an extended magazine release on it and a DP magwell.  Between that and a RIA, I'd make the same choice again, based on my experience with my RIA Pro Match 40.  While I like my RIA, and it works quite well, the fit/finish leaves a lot to be desired.

 

I'm sure there are better options, but not without a significant jump in price range, IMHO.

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Just sold a PM9 to a friend, it sat in the safe for 3 years, he’s extatic over it. Very good quality gun built with no MIM parts. 

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I have experience with several of the options named here.  The RO is a solid gun, decently accurate, but certainly not brilliant out of the box.  The PM9 that I worked on had a great trigger and slide/frame fit.  The barrel fit was decent, but had some vertical play on the lugs.  The disconnector was ultra stiff with its interaction with the slide some much so that you could stop the slide on it 2/3 back.  The Colt Comps were pretty loose guns in all respects.  If I had to choose, I would take the PM9 under the pretenses that I went over it and did a few things, like a disco ramp cut at the stripping block/breachface.  I'd probably fit a barrel in any factory gun, and the RO would need a sear/hook job for sure.  All that said, I've rarely handled any factory 1911 up to and including stuff in the Baer line that didn't need some work IMHO.  Exceptions being some of the older STI singlestacks, minus the chintzy finish.  I've got a 6" 9mm Trojan and 6" 9mm Targetmaster that have both shoot 1" at 50yds.

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On 3/17/2018 at 8:28 AM, Jim Watson said:

My 9mms are an elderly SA and an even older Colt 1991A1.  The Colt is a good shooter but with its GI ramp is very finicky as to magazine and bullet.  I would get something with an integral ramp in the small calibers.  A local gunsmith says that if you want to start with a working gun instead of having him assemble one out of parts, he prefers to work on Springfields. 

Our several SA 9mm Loaded Target guns are accurate enough (for SC) and have been ultra-reliable.  Triggers are variable and will definitely need work.  I wouldn't recommend 147gr FP coated bullets as even with polished feed ramps the first round stutters; could be an issue in action pistol, not so much in SC.  The Acme 145gr RN are a great choice for those shooting minor PF and wanting heavier lead.

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On 3/16/2018 at 4:43 PM, Mcfoto said:

Seems like an after-break-in tune and a half dozen Dawson mags, it’d be a SS minor machine.

 

 

There has been lots of great suggestions in this post for solid single-stack 9mm guns.  I have 17,000 rounds through my 9mm Springfield Operator and I can backup McFoto's recommendation on Dawson magazines.  I've tried Springfield magazines, Wilson Combat, Chip McCormick and Dawson.  In my experiences, I've had the most reliable operation using Dawson magazines.  ....so whatever 9mm pistol you land on, Dawson magazines will help set you up for success.  

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4 years ago I picked up a base model RIA 1911. I didnt start shooting it till a couple years ago, but I have not needed anything since. I made A with it and it has been 100% reliable from the start. I added a dawson magwell and run dawson mags.

 

Edit: I payed $350 for it...

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On 4/5/2018 at 4:23 PM, BangSwitch said:

 

There has been lots of great suggestions in this post for solid single-stack 9mm guns.  I have 17,000 rounds through my 9mm Springfield Operator and I can backup McFoto's recommendation on Dawson magazines.  I've tried Springfield magazines, Wilson Combat, Chip McCormick and Dawson.  In my experiences, I've had the most reliable operation using Dawson magazines.  ....so whatever 9mm pistol you land on, Dawson magazines will help set you up for success.  

 

 

I also prefer either Dawson or Wilson mags for my Springfield RO. 

 

I bought several Tripp Cobra mags upon recommendation from a shooting friend.  While my Tripp mags DO feed great, the top round pops out while ejecting a partially full magazine.  Sometimes the top round sticks out forward of the magazine just enough to prevent the magazine from dropping free.  This is a problem when you have a forced mag change on the clock during the course of fire (i.e. steel matches), or at ULSC.  If you shoot to slide lock, no problem...  

 

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8 hours ago, Ken6PPC said:

 

I also prefer either Dawson or Wilson mags for my Springfield RO

 

I bought several Tripp Cobra mags upon recommendation from a shooting friend.  While my Tripp mags DO feed great, the top round pops out while ejecting a partially full magazine.  Sometimes the top round sticks out forward of the magazine just enough to prevent the magazine from dropping free.  This is a problem when you have a forced mag change on the clock during the course of fire (i.e. steel matches), or at ULSC.  If you shoot to slide lock, no problem...  

 

I assume the Tripp mags have the spacer in the front?   Mecgar 9mm 1911 mags will  pop a round out when ejecting the mag with ammo still in it.  

 

My metalform mags wouldn’t load hollow points in my rock island 1911. However in my Sig tacops the metal form mags run flawless with any ammo

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