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Surprised at the lack of discussion on the BoD meeting agenda and decisions. Found reference to it in the CZ section, and just went and read them for myself. BoD approved slide lightening cuts for CO, and removed provisional status. Approved aftermarket triggers in CO AND Production. New Production rules take effect in 3 months, CO now.

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Apex triggers on order for my Q5.... changes to triggers also appear to impact Production though they don’t take effect for 3 months, whereas CO is legal today.

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PCC is no longer provisional, though I didn't see any talk of fixing the classifier hit factors. 

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And I guess they forgot all about the 2" rule that they were supposed to act on at this meeting? 

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I like everything but the trigger rule... it can turn even the most basic of classes into gear races. 

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2 hours ago, BritinUSA said:

What was the issue with the 2” rule... Is it too short ?

Supposedly at this meeting they were going to change it to width of scoring overlay for restricted divisions and length of overlay for limited/Open. It was discussed last year but they had to wait until this year due to by laws

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Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01.

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8 hours ago, stick said:

Wow!

This is now legal in carry optics!

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YES IT IS! very nice.

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1 minute ago, kipdynamite said:

Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01.

Outside of reducing weight, no. BUT there is the "that's cool" factor.

 

I am sure that someone will say that the cuts cause air friction so that helps keep the muzzle from rising (LOL)

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1 minute ago, mstamper said:

Outside of reducing weight, no. BUT there is the "that's cool" factor.

 

I am sure that someone will say that the cuts cause air friction so that helps keep the muzzle from rising (LOL)

Okay. Good! I feel like I just found $200.00. I abandoned trying to look "cool" years ago.

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9 hours ago, Sarge said:

Supposedly at this meeting they were going to change it to width of scoring overlay for restricted divisions and length of overlay for limited/Open. It was discussed last year but they had to wait until this year due to by laws

 

Thanks, my RHT holster and SpringerPrecision hanger are right at 2”... a little wiggle room would have been nice.

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1 hour ago, kipdynamite said:

Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01.

This is really the only "big deal" for CO. Its easier to find certain guns and make them make weight by cutting them. Stock III, maybe Stock II, Shadow 2. Or aftermarket Glock slides with the "window" cut in the top. The trigger rule makes all the aftermarket Glock triggers legal. 

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14 hours ago, kipdynamite said:

Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01.

Fyi, I shot a stock 2 9mm with a dovetail mounted vortex (zero slide cutting) and was at 44.6oz. Milling the slide to mount the dot makes weight easily.

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Legat in CO?      21.6 allows aftermarket slide stops, and the "old book" wording prohibiting thumb rests is gone------

 

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So, since there's just a maximum weight listed does that mean that frame weights, grip weights, etc are legal as long as it's under weight?

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2 hours ago, LeviSS said:

So, since there's just a maximum weight listed does that mean that frame weights, grip weights, etc are legal as long as it's under weight?

That is a grey area. There is a section in the CO gun rules that says that just because something is not listed does not by default make it legal by its absence. (rather circular but that is the gist of what it says)

The rules also say that if you are called on a condition / legality of your weapon YOU have to show a SPECIFIC rule that allows your modification. If you can't then the modification is ruled illegal and a decision will be made as to how or if you are allowed to continue in the match.

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I don’t care about carry optics changing these rules... it’s not production. They already have 25 rounds starts with the 140mm mags. Cool. Okay. 

 

Slide lighting? cool.

 

Thumb rests? Check. Cool

 

They have to make it a real division. They have had a national championship in it a few times. Hopefully this will bring some sick ass customized cooler guns. Why not? Okay. Figured. Check. 

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3 hours ago, 3gunDQ said:

They have to make it a real division. 

CO is now a real division. At this meeting it was voted to take it out of PROVISIONAL.

 

They did that with CO and PCC

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