Dhudgins525 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 So I've looked and looked and looked on the forum using the search function and found alot of information on focal distance if you wear glasses and what prescription to use and all of that but nothing on people with normal vision. Watching some videos from Frank Proctor he shoots with his elbows really bent (seems more than most shooters) and I've played around with this in practice a little and found that it seems to make it easier to see "through" the sights to the target plus it seems to enforce bringing the gun up to my line of sight rather than dipping my head any. It also seems to be easier to see the front sight clearly with both eyes open instead of the occasional double sights thing that happens. Any opinions on having the focal distance closer and using this more bent elbows position? Looking for potential negatives or any positives from anyone that does this or something similar. Also seems to help the gun recoil more predictably and consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Scientist Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Having my eyesight go from both directions, I do whatever I can to keep my shooting form. One of the keys of all top shooters is the iso stance/grip. I would not deviate from that without a serious good reason. I'm lucky that i have 'normal' vision in that I do not HAVE to wear eyeglasses (I can pass the driving test w/o them) but old age is creeeping in and I am natrually nearsighted (Which means soon i will be able to see things near AND far). Even if I have to get special glasses for shooting, I'd do that over changing form. Also as a cross eye dominant shooter (actually my right eye is crap) all I have to do is turn my head slightly and everything clears up for the front sight. Keep working on it but do not sacrifice your shooting stance to get it. There are a lot of ways to prevent the double sights--although you mention you can do it with both eyes open. If that works, do it. I'm a tape on the eyeglass dood myself. You also have to train your eyes just as you would your grip, stance, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B585 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 14 hours ago, Dhudgins525 said: So I've looked and looked and looked on the forum using the search function and found alot of information on focal distance if you wear glasses and what prescription to use and all of that but nothing on people with normal vision. Watching some videos from Frank Proctor he shoots with his elbows really bent (seems more than most shooters) and I've played around with this in practice a little and found that it seems to make it easier to see "through" the sights to the target plus it seems to enforce bringing the gun up to my line of sight rather than dipping my head any. It also seems to be easier to see the front sight clearly with both eyes open instead of the occasional double sights thing that happens. Any opinions on having the focal distance closer and using this more bent elbows position? Looking for potential negatives or any positives from anyone that does this or something similar. Also seems to help the gun recoil more predictably and consistently. Figure out the best form (grip, elbows, placement of finger on the trigger, etc) for you and don’t worry about the distance to the front sight. The difference in prescription at that distance will be minimal. Your age will be a factor. The formula to calculate the strength at the distance of the front sight is 1/(inches (from your eye to the front sight) x 2.54 /100) which will typically be about 1.25. The problem is if you have ANY uncorrected refractive error for distance, which almost everyone does and they still may see 20/20 or better, that has to be added to it. If you are seeing double with one eye, you may have uncorrected astigmatism or you may be over focusing which is also very common if you are still under 70. The best solution is after you figure out the exact distance you want to hold the gun, measure the distance from your eye to the front sight and then go see an eye doctor telling them exactly what you need. You can PM me your age and distance and I could get you close, but an eye doctor will do better because they can determine the other factors that I mentioned which requires a face to face exam. If you can find an optometrist in your area that likes to shoot open sights, that would be the best solution although not always easy to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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