21 shooter Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Around 30 or so years ago someone said that if it required using a timer then it was a game. Get some trigger time, have fun, doesn’t matter which “game” or “sport”. I learned that the time I spend with friends at the match is what’s important to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 What does Cranium, Boggle, USPSA, IDPA, Steel Challenge, Taboo and Perfection have in common? THEY ARE ALL GAMES THAT USE TIMERS! SOME I CHOOSE TO PLAY AND OTHERS I DON'T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yup, if it's timed and scored, with lots and lots of rules, it's just a game, and only a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 1/26/2018 at 12:37 PM, Flatland Shooter said: That attitude will get you killed in the streets. (Real lame but first time I ever got to use that phrase.) IDPA, is what will get you killed. Stoping to pick up a dropped mag while you are in a shoot out will get you an extra hole in your head. It is all a game, unless you are shooting at some one shooting at you... Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 There isn't any sane way to simulate an actual gunfight. And, most gunfights consist of three shots in three seconds. And, take place in the dark. Many at contact range. And, the bad guy gets to take the first shot That would be a boring game. BUT a Very Exciting actual gunfight. Shooting games try their best to add stress (but can't even begin to compete with the amount of stress in an actual gunfight). But, they are ALL games, that can be of some assistance in learning how to use a firearm to protect yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff O Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Don't shoot my EDC in IDPA 'cause it is plain not competitive in SSP Master. Shot my Shield in BUG and finished 5th OA out of 71 shooters. I use a Red Hill Tactical OWB holster and competition mag pouches. Not that the gun isn't shootable, but in a 90 rd local match you do 6 more reloads in BUG than in SSP/ESP. In a sport where I've won (and lost) the overall by less than a full second that difference is insurmountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsantini Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 IDPA is a Game. A Member at my club says he won't shoot USPSA because it is not Real World and IDPA is more real world.. I say its all good trigger time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, Salsantini said: IDPA is a Game. A Member at my club says he won't shoot USPSA because it is not Real World and IDPA is more real world.. I say its all good trigger time. IDPA is not real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Good, you guys get all that out in this thread so we don't have to read it in others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) On 4/23/2018 at 8:11 AM, Hi-Power Jack said: There isn't any sane way to simulate an actual gunfight. And, most gunfights consist of three shots in three seconds. And, take place in the dark. Many at contact range. And, the bad guy gets to take the first shot That would be a boring game. BUT a Very Exciting actual gunfight. Shooting games try their best to add stress (but can't even begin to compete with the amount of stress in an actual gunfight). But, they are ALL games, that can be of some assistance in learning how to use a firearm to protect yourself Agreed, but it would seem to me for most of us civilians the stress of a violent encounter is after the fact (IMHO being scared s@#$less doesn't necessarily count as stress while it's happening), the stress of a competition is before/during (you have time to think/dwell on your actions). Living is exciting, competing is exciting but a gun fight is not something I find exciting. I'm a big sissy I just don't want to get hurt???? But I understand what you are saying. Question though, if guns are involved but not fired is it a ?gunfight? Edited October 2, 2018 by pskys2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, pskys2 said: the stress of a violent encounter is after the fact But, there are side effects of the violent encounter during the violence that are well documented. Tunnel Vision (I didn't see the 2nd bad guy) , time slowing down (I shot him dead center and he didn't fall down ??? WTF ????) , and many people freeze (not fight or flight, but the third F word - FREEZE). Auditory exclusion (hey, my gun didn't go off ???? WTF ???). You may not feel in those three seconds that you were "stressed", but you were. No way to create that kind of stress in a game (apart from the games played at the Coliseum and at the Spanish Inquisition). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Are the football games at the Coliseum really all that stressful ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Steve, I was talking about the Coliseum that we used to play in when we were kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: No way to create that kind of stress in a game (apart from the games played at the Coliseum and at the Spanish Inquisition). 2 hours ago, Steve RA said: Are the football games at the Coliseum really all that stressful ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Yeah, that's the Coliseum that I was talking about. Thanks, jhgtyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telligentgunner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 It's a game where the rules have gotten worse over the years with 1 second for every point down and now "oblong holes" not being counted. I'm about done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackinSD Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 hours ago, telligentgunner said: It's a game where the rules have gotten worse over the years with 1 second for every point down and now "oblong holes" not being counted. I'm about done. Very close to the same rule as USPSA, 9.5.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telligentgunner Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, JackinSD said: Very close to the same rule as USPSA, 9.5.5. Whatever. A hole is a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 6:12 AM, JackinSD said: Very close to the same rule as USPSA, 9.5.5. IDPA 4.6.1 omits the last half of USPSA 9.5.5, the "...unless there is visible evidence..." part which makes rather a huge difference. The IDPA rule is significantly different from the USPSA version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 4:29 AM, mwray said: Speaking of negativity can anyone point out why IDPA was started in the first place??? Because IPSC/USPSA had become games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 So there would be a game with a specific rule set for Bill Wilsons guns to be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Yeah! There are just tons of Wilson guns at IDPA matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 1/28/2018 at 1:32 PM, jhgtyre said: If you get mad, flip the board over and stomp off, does checkers become a sport? Never heard of rage quits at checkers. Is that a thing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 4/23/2018 at 9:11 AM, Hi-Power Jack said: There isn't any sane way to simulate an actual gunfight. Force on force with simunitions or (on the cheap) airsoft pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 9/17/2018 at 3:56 PM, Salsantini said: A Member at my club says he won't shoot USPSA because it is not Real World and IDPA is more real world.. HAHAHAHA!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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