MemphisMechanic Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 On 12/27/2017 at 5:43 PM, Broncman said: I use a Frankford Arsenal handheld vibratory tube filler. Winchester's stick and do not feed as well as the CCIs I have. I to believe they are not as uniform. Same. All Winchester small primers (pistol & rifle) suck the most going through vibratory fillers. Especially the handheld vibra prime. Federals have occasional hangups - but much more rarely than Wins. The CCIs I’ve used (500 and 550) and Sellier & Bellot SPP all go through it flawlessly. Like butter. I stick to those primers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: Same. All Winchester small primers (pistol & rifle) suck the most going through vibratory fillers. Especially the handheld vibra prime. Federals have occasional hangups - but much more rarely than Wins. The CCIs I’ve used (500 and 550) and Sellier & Bellot SPP all go through it flawlessly. Like butter. I stick to those primers now. Ok so you tried a lot of primers are the CCI and S&B SPP softer then the Winchester SRP. I just don't want to be worried about light strikes with a harder primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) I don’t know. I only used Win Small Pistol. The knowledge that Win SRPs don’t run through a vibraprime came from a good friend who had similarly bad luck. What gun are you running them through and what have you done to your hammer/striker spring? CCI Magnum pistol primers are a favorite of mine. As are standard S&B small pistol when on sale cheap at Cabelas. Both tend to be easy to find when Win and Federal Small Pistol are out of stock. And both run flawlessly through an RF100 or vibraprime. Edited January 4, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboSoup22 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Speaking of S&B were on sale the other day at Cabela’s. 19.99 a box in case anyone needed some. All flavors on sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traingq Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I've run Winchester Small Rifle Primers, but recently switched to CCI Small Rifle Primers. Federal Match Primers worked well for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knguyen1904 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I used to use Winchester magnum pistol but was getting the occasional light strike (#17 mainspring) . Made the switch to federal magnum pistol and haven’t looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_B Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I've been using WSR primers for many years and have had zero problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvc4you Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I've been using WSR primers for many years and have had zero problems. +1Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 CCI will work great. In my testing, there was zero quantifiable difference in velocity when using SPP, SRP or SPMP. Literally none. All inside the margin of error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I too have always used WSP primers for 9 major without any issues. I also use a Vibraprime! I guess I am just lucky (at times). CCI SP primers should be fine as long as your gun will set them off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banacek Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Shadyscott999 said: CCI will work great. In my testing, there was zero quantifiable difference in velocity when using SPP, SRP or SPMP. Literally none. All inside the margin of error. Good to know, I have a ton more SRP and have used them for other calibers. I need to test my 9mm Major loads again this month to verify some data and will run a batch of both just to confirm the data regarding running either SPP or SRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I've used about 30k WSR primers and 10k CCI SP primers so far in 9 major. Both seem to work well. Both feed about the same for me in the Dillon RF100. CCI SP seem slightly harder in terms of seating. WSR are easier to "crush" seat to the point of where the primer edge radius is removed. It's very difficult for me to get that same type of seating using CCI SP. WSR are easier to seat deeper. In terms of "softness" as it relates to where the firing pin strikes it....IDK. They all go bang with a 23# hammer spring for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, d_striker said: a 23# hammer spring for me. Holy crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Shadyscott999 said: Holy crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewbeck Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Holy crap! I’ve run at least 45k S&B small rifle primers without any issue. I’ve also loaded probably 40k with WSR and now I’m trying to burn up a bunch of CCI both SP and SR.Having loaded and shot quite a few of all without issue, my preference/priority is now based on 1) cost, 2) vibra prime ease of use.I’d buy SB from here on out just due to regularly being 30% cheaper than CCI or WSR.My experience is Wins are more difficult to use with vibra prime and they are squishy when loading. I’ve avoided loading my CCI stock until recently but have had no issues so I’ll shoot the rest of hodge podge of primers I have left.Mainsprings are 23lb and 25lb, so it may not be as reliable in other configurations.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banacek Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, drewbeck said: I’ve run at least 45k S&B small rifle primers without any issue. I’ve also loaded probably 40k with WSR and now I’m trying to burn up a bunch of CCI both SP and SR. Having loaded and shot quite a few of all without issue, my preference/priority is now based on 1) cost, 2) vibra prime ease of use. I’d buy SB from here on out just due to regularly being 30% cheaper than CCI or WSR. My experience is Wins are more difficult to use with vibra prime and they are squishy when loading. I’ve avoided loading my CCI stock until recently but have had no issues so I’ll shoot the rest of hodge podge of primers I have left. Mainsprings are 23lb and 25lb, so it may not be as reliable in other configurations. I am feeling better about how many primers I have, do not have enough Magnum primers. Has anyone had any problems with using Win296 without magnum primers, will I just have more unburnt powder in my .357 and .44 magnum rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I bet you can set ANYTHING off with a 25# mainspring. Probably stuff a cheeto in there and get it to ignite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewbeck Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I bet you can set ANYTHING off with a 25# mainspring. Probably stuff a cheeto in there and get it to ignite. They gotta be the crunchy flaming hot ones, otherwise I’ve noticed some reliability issues and significant orange goo buildup in my comp which has proven to be a nightmare to clean. The only solution I’ve found was to run a couple bacon wrapped jalapeño poppers through it and it’s all goodSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I use Tula SR primers in 9mm, .45ACP (small primer brass) and .223/5.56 just so I only need to stock one primer. Course you can't get Tula primers presently but I have a reasonable supply still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 15 hours ago, drewbeck said: They gotta be the crunchy flaming hot ones, otherwise I’ve noticed some reliability issues and significant orange goo buildup in my comp which has proven to be a nightmare to clean. The only solution I’ve found was to run a couple bacon wrapped jalapeño poppers through it and it’s all good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Excellent problem solving. Probably smells pretty tasty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 use small rifle primersSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I just did some testing with Cci 500 Federal small pistol magnum I'm going with fspm for my major matches now. Zero pressure signs, smaller es and sd. Cleaner burn judging from the case and I was able to drop it from 7.1 to 7.0 for 170pf. Not huge difference but I primarily like the lower sd More importantly, the fspm is softer than cci500s, the same cup as the small rifle but more sensitive powder and softer anvil than srp. It's a win win. I purposely didn't fully seat a few and they all went bang. Can't do that with cci Edited April 19, 2018 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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