cheby Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The magazine release is ridiculous. It is so long that it messes with my grip. Did anybody find any solution besides grinding it? Looks the Shadow 2 mag release does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yes. I used a cutting wheel .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On a more serious note, don't mess with it until you have installed a thumb rest that actually works (with a plate between it and the slide), cut down the left side safety and installed a cut down extended right safety. Then see what your grip is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert.a.brewer. Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On a more serious note, don't mess with it until you have installed a thumb rest that actually works (with a plate between it and the slide), cut down the left side safety and installed a cut down extended right safety. Then see what your grip is like. Does putting a plate on the slide move the thumb rest out away from the gun to a more natural or comfortable position? Is that what you are saying? First I heard of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, cheby said: The magazine release is ridiculous. It is so long that it messes with my grip. Did anybody find any solution besides grinding it? Looks the Shadow 2 mag release does not work. A shadow 2 release doesn’t work because of the thumb pad, maybe a regular shadow release? I ended up cutting mine down, drilling/tapping, and installing a shadow 2 pad at an angle that felt more positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 10 hours ago, robert.a.brewer. said: Does putting a plate on the slide move the thumb rest out away from the gun to a more natural or comfortable position? Is that what you are saying? First I heard of this. It stops your thumb rubbing on the slide as it cycles. It becomes more of a problem the tighter you grip the gun. My TSO is at CZC having a plate made. The recess that the factory thumb rest screws into makes this trickier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 hours ago, selecw said: On a more serious note, don't mess with it until you have installed a thumb rest that actually works (with a plate between it and the slide), cut down the left side safety and installed a cut down extended right safety. Then see what your grip is like. I was actually going to get rid of the thumb rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, cheby said: I was actually going to get rid of the thumb rest I find that a thumb rest has two benefits in competition: 1. pushing down on it while using a vise grip makes the front sight snap back faster (approximately 30% for me) 2. combined with an extended left side safety (I'm right handed), there is nowhere your hand can go on a fast draw except the correct grip If you don't shoot competition, neither of these things matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Leadpilot said: A shadow 2 release doesn’t work because of the thumb pad, maybe a regular shadow release? I ended up cutting mine down, drilling/tapping, and installing a shadow 2 pad at an angle that felt more positive. Now this looks likes like the solution I was looking for! Now I need to find somebody to do this for me since I do not have the tools and skills to pull it off myself:) Wondering if CZC would do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 First thing I did was ditch the thumbrest and the only thing I use my gun for is competition, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, selecw said: I find that a thumb rest has two benefits in competition: 1. pushing down on it while using a vise grip makes the front sight snap back faster (approximately 30% for me) 2. combined with an extended left side safety (I'm right handed), there is nowhere your hand can go on a fast draw except the correct grip If you don't shoot competition, neither of these things matter. Perhaps I need to stick to it for a while ... I have been shooting shadow/shadow 2 for so long and my grip is very high (Kinda like Vogel's) so the thumb rest is on the way... I shoot Production mainly and want to add some Limited to spice it up and shoot both divisions at Nationals next year. Edited December 13, 2017 by cheby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, cheby said: Perhaps I need to stick to it for a while ... I have been shooting shadow/shadow 2 for so long and my grip is very high (Kinda like Vogel's) so the thumb rest is on the way... I shoot Production mainly and want to add some Limited to spice it up and shoot both divisions at Nationals next year. I shot a TS with an adjustable thumb rest in Iron Sight Nationals this year. I am a huge fan of the set up. I also have the same thumb rest on my Czechmate. To your point about a high grip, this is another reason the factory TSO thumb rest doesn't work for me - it's non adjustable, so my thumb just kinda pokes into it and there is no real benefit. I want my thumb to lie on top of a 45 degree angled thumb rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, selecw said: I shot a TS with an adjustable thumb rest in Iron Sight Nationals this year. I am a huge fan of the set up. I also have the same thumb rest on my Czechmate. To your point about a high grip, this is another reason the factory TSO thumb rest doesn't work for me - it's non adjustable, so my thumb just kinda pokes into it and there is no real benefit. I want my thumb to lie on top of a 45 degree angled thumb rest. What the adjustable thumb rest do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 DAA: https://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=DATR-O&n=DAA-Adjustable-Thumb-Rest-with-Wide-Paddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurley326 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 2:47 AM, Leadpilot said: A shadow 2 release doesn’t work because of the thumb pad, maybe a regular shadow release? I ended up cutting mine down, drilling/tapping, and installing a shadow 2 pad at an angle that felt more positive. How is this holding up? I am debating giving this a try myself. Where did you get the spare S2 pad? Or did you buy an entire mag catch assembly and just utilize the pad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Doesn't the S2 mag release pad have a roll pin that goes into a recess in the mag catch? I don't see that in your pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, hurley326 said: How is this holding up? I am debating giving this a try myself. Where did you get the spare S2 pad? Or did you buy an entire mag catch assembly and just utilize the pad? It’s been a couple of months and so far so good. I used quite a bit of loctite and torqued it down pretty good. I got the pad from a friend who prefers the original shadow release on his s2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, adamge said: Doesn't the S2 mag release pad have a roll pin that goes into a recess in the mag catch? I don't see that in your pic. It does, but this is just a milled down tacsport mag catch with an s2 thumbpad on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 8:15 PM, selecw said: DAA: https://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=DATR-O&n=DAA-Adjustable-Thumb-Rest-with-Wide-Paddle Does the DAA thumb rest just bolt or does it require modification? I have the IPSC Alex thumb rest and while it is a good quality product it is slightly too far forward for my hands. The factory rest is in the perfect location for me but a little too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Another issue with the mag release - it is too stiff for me. After 20 min of dry firing 4 aces my thumb is in pain. Probably It is made very hard to push on purpose. If it was easy I would push that damn thing each time when I grip the gun... I have not done any modification to it yet. Anyways, any ideas how to lighten it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Shoot it more and toughen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, 858 said: Does the DAA thumb rest just bolt or does it require modification? I have the IPSC Alex thumb rest and while it is a good quality product it is slightly too far forward for my hands. The factory rest is in the perfect location for me but a little too small. Yes, the gun needs to be drilled and tapped for it, or have an adapter plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telligentgunner Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Looks like the new TSOs are shipping with the Shadow 2 style magazine release and metal trigger. Anyone know where to get them?. Edited October 29, 2018 by telligentgunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 I just bought my second TSO. It came with the new magazine release. It's awesome. Unfortunately it also came with a different trigger guard. So I had to buy yet another DAA insert for that gun. I'm glad I did as my 1st TSO started double feeding at the nationals and I had to switch to the backup gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak hill Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 hours ago, telligentgunner said: Looks like the new TSOs are shipping with the Shadow 2 style magazine release and metal trigger. Anyone know where to get them?. PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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