deerassassin22 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I think we should make lights legal in CO if they gun still makes weight. My CO gun is my carry gun in legal states and my home defense gun like many others why can’t we keep the lights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerassassin22 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 It’s a valid question. You can have a light in open and that’s pointless your not using that for CC or home defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Because the term "Carry" in Carry Optics is a misnomer. The division is not meant to represent or include new practices in CCW/CHL practices and equipment. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 We should make them shoot self defense ammo and only score alpha too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 My gun is only an ounce or two over the limit. What would it hurt to allow it in USPSA? It's artificial competition anyway, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itlogo Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 33 minutes ago, Nathanb said: We should make them shoot self defense ammo and only score alpha too Lol and procedurals for not scanning after shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Normally you fit into the rules rather than ask to have the rules bent to fit around you. Unless you're the one making the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerassassin22 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Hmm I wonder how new both PCC and CO were created oh and the rules changed and updated oh yeah. People got together within the organization and requested it. Because im sure I will be the only one in USPSA that would do it yep All about me so selfish. To think ? the world has never changed Edited December 2, 2017 by deerassassin22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Sure it is called open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, deerassassin22 said: Hmm I wonder how new both PCC and CO were created oh and the rules changed and updated oh yeah. People got together within the organization and requested it. Because im sure I will be the only one in USPSA that would do it yep All about me so selfish. To think ? the world has never changed Knew that was coming.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 hours ago, teros135 said: My gun is only an ounce or two over the limit. What would it hurt to allow it in USPSA? It's artificial competition anyway, isn't it? Depends on how tactical Timmy you are I guess by that standard everything but SS and production is Artificial! But Then again I've carried a custom built 1911 for the last 40 years so what do you want to call that "TIM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) I'm sorry it sounds harsh, but from what you typed most people are hearing "I have a gun, I want to shoot it in X division but it isn't legal for that division. So I would like the rules changed." That type of statement and reasoning usually gets little sympathy, I'm sorry. There is a division you're gun is currently legal in, Open, but you don't want to shoot in it. The facts that it is your carry gun, its legality in various states and its function as your home defense weapon aren't relevant to its use in a uspsa division. Renaming the division would go a good ways towards reducing the assumptions people make about it based on the name. Al, you've been a member for like 7 years, you're classified C and B in almost every division. You know how it works man...... Edited December 2, 2017 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLB-US Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I think it's really coming down to the ongoing discussion of -- Should carry optics be? 1. Production (with red dots allowed) 2. Limited (with red dots allowed) 3. Open (with no comps allowed) 4. Something totally different than the above (which for obvious reasons seems to complicate matters) If red dots on handguns REALLY take off over the next 15 years or so, I could see more than the current two electronic sight divisions being feasible, but I think we are a long ways from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like it is heading towards modified, but scored minor. What ever happened to modified ? Seemed like it came out with some cool guns. But then kinda died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 53 minutes ago, Joe4d said: Looks like it is heading towards modified, but scored minor. What ever happened to modified ? Seemed like it came out with some cool guns. But then kinda died. No one shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutycalls75 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 9:11 AM, Joe4d said: Looks like it is heading towards modified, but scored minor. What ever happened to modified ? Seemed like it came out with some cool guns. But then kinda died. From what I’ve seen because of the rule structure for modified , ie fitting in the box, you had to have a custom gun to be competitive and those custom guns required more time/cost to build than a standard custom limited or open gun. I believe because of this not many shooters choose to shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Should have called it welfare open or ghetto open, would have solved a lot of these issues. By the way, I am for some sort of magwell in Carry ops, can we do that? (kinda joking, but if we are taking request....) Would a baby glock with a 33 rounder fit in the modified box? If so I am in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, RJH said: Should have called it welfare open I HAVE CALLED IT THIS FROM THE BEGINNING Would a baby glock with a 33 rounder fit in the modified box? NOT EVEN CLOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It is well on its way to being Limited Optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, Sarge said: I know you/others have, I meant in an official capacity :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, JAFO said: It is well on its way to being Limited Optics. yeh, with one thing excluded that actually has been shown to not be any advantage one way or another. Trigger type. Shoot Even IDPA is figuring that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester121 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 9:05 AM, MemphisMechanic said: No one shot it. No one shoots L10 or Revolver, and yet.... Maybe it was just ahead of its time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Sarge said: What if you got a folding mag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) man that brings back memories... I remember a long discussion about that. Accordion magazines... LOL,, Basically mag pads being worn to the point they are loose on bottom of mag, so you can push them up to make em a bit shorter when they were unloaded.. I think there was an actual rule about this at one time. Yeh just found it,, mag cant be compressed or collapsable... Yep you know someone tried it or there wouldnt be a rule Edited December 6, 2017 by Joe4d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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