wingnut Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I was DQ after the COF. Half way through they said I swept my hand grabbing a mag off a barrel but left me finished the COF. Should I have been stop at the infraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Yes. As soon as the infraction occurred you should have been stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 But even if they did not get you stopped, it was still a DQ offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Yes I understand, This is my first year and learning a lot. Just though he should have stop me. It’s not a problem it was my first DQ it was the next to last stage. Stayed and help past and clean up after match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Good that you stayed to help. its not unusual for an RO to not need to issue a DQ for a very long time (thanks to good safe competitors) and it may take a few seconds for "what just happened" to register with the RO. It may have also been a less experienced RO that the splt second it happened it did not immediately register. Or in my case, it took me a while to catch up to you. (Which also explains why my old butt don't volunteer to RO much anymore.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 The RO said it was fast and very close and he had another RO verify it. It’s a learning experience and I will be very cautious on barrel reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, wingnut said: The RO said it was fast and very close and he had another RO verify it. It’s a learning experience and I will be very cautious on barrel reloads. I'm guessing the first RO wasn't sure, and so they went to ask somebody else (who also wasn't sure, because they hadn't called it, either.) That's usually not a good call, because he/she didn't really know what they saw. I'd say a warning might have been in order, but not a DQ. Edited November 26, 2017 by teros135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattooo Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I'm guessing the first RO wasn't sure, and so they went to ask somebody else (who also wasn't sure, because they hadn't called it, either.) That's usually not a good call, because he/she didn't really know what they saw. I'd say a warning might have been in order, but not a DQ. I agree completely and would have questioned it a bit further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 if i'm not sure enough of a sweep or 180 violation while running a shooter, to call it as it happens, i'm not going to call it after he/she is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, davsco said: if i'm not sure enough of a sweep or 180 violation while running a shooter, to call it as it happens, i'm not going to call it after he/she is finished. Good move ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
191138sc Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 On 11/25/2017 at 4:22 PM, wingnut said: I was DQ after the COF. Half way through they said I swept my hand grabbing a mag off a barrel but left me finished the COF. Should I have been stop at the infraction. I urge you to go through the RO certification course. It will pay dividends for years. In your case, the RO may have felt it unsafe to stop you at your location in the COF. It is preferred to stop a competitor when the infraction occurs, but may not always be practical. Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Agree on RO training. It'd a good thing all around. But what's this about an "unsafe location" to stop a shooter (and letting him complete fully half of the COF before stopping him)? Come on! Just say "stop" and get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, teros135 said: But what's this about an "unsafe location" to stop a shooter When the guy with the 45 , for some reason it is always a 45, why is it always a 45, spins around and has his loaded gun pointed directly at me, I do not say "stop" or make any other loud noises or sudden movements. I endeavor to get myself out of immediate danger, and then I say stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, IHAVEGAS said: When the guy with the 45 , for some reason it is always a 45, why is it always a 45, spins around and has his loaded gun pointed directly at me, I do not say "stop" or make any other loud noises or sudden movements. I endeavor to get myself out of immediate danger, and then I say stop. I wish it had been a 45 when that has happened to me, always tended to be ARs and Shotguns around here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattooo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 if i'm not sure enough of a sweep or 180 violation while running a shooter, to call it as it happens, i'm not going to call it after he/she is finished.Exactly....great point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, tattooo said: On 11/26/2017 at 4:17 PM, davsco said: if i'm not sure enough of a sweep or 180 violation while running a shooter, to call it as it happens, i'm not going to call it after he/she is finished. Exactly....great point Besides, a safety violation needs to be addressed instantly. The point of stopping a shooter is to make things safe NOW. Two minutes afterwards is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattooo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Besides, a safety violation needs to be addressed instantly. The point of stopping a shooter is to make things safe NOW. Two minutes afterwards is moot.Couldn't agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckstur Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said: When the guy with the 45 , for some reason it is always a 45, why is it always a 45, spins around and has his loaded gun pointed directly at me, I do not say "stop" or make any other loud noises or sudden movements. I endeavor to get myself out of immediate danger, and then I say stop. You forgot to mention the Chip McCormick 10 round magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetAwayDriva Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Omg! The one time I had to yell stop it was a guy with a 45 and chip McCormick 10 round magazines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 They all look like 45 or bigger when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 But think of the stopping power guys. Why would you shoot anything else? I dunno, if I'm not sure of what I saw, and any other ROs weren't sure either, that's not very good grounds to DQ someone. All depends though, some guys I want to DQ because they skirt the edge of doing stupid shit and I look for any opportunity because I don't feel comfortable at all with their gun handling skills. On the one hand, it's great to get them out of the game and stop shooting, but on the other hand I gotta figure out how to get them to learn proper gun handling techniques because I want the sport to grow but I don't want to get shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 17 hours ago, swordfish said: I dunno, if I'm not sure of what I saw, and any other ROs weren't sure either, that's not very good grounds to DQ someone. Agreed. With any penalty you only call what you are certain that you saw. Any reasonable doubt and I will just tell the shooter after they have finished the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 3:45 PM, Sarge said: Besides, a safety violation needs to be addressed instantly. The point of stopping a shooter is to make things safe NOW. Two minutes afterwards is moot. 2 minutes is a very long time in our sport. Anyway, I had a guy running left to right and backwards who broke the 180 going around a wall...I waited the 2 seconds for him to turn down range (when he was not actually facing the 180) before yelling stop. Yes, I made sure he was in a safe position before yelling stop. I can also see waiting if the competitor is running down/up a hill or through some odd terrain before stopping him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, racerba said: 2 minutes is a very long time in our sport. Anyway, I had a guy running left to right and backwards who broke the 180 going around a wall...I waited the 2 seconds for him to turn down range (when he was not actually facing the 180) before yelling stop. Yes, I made sure he was in a safe position before yelling stop. I can also see waiting if the competitor is running down/up a hill or through some odd terrain before stopping him/her. All good valid points. Stop them instantly or as soon as it’s safe to interject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkill Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 11/28/2017 at 3:45 PM, Sarge said: Besides, a safety violation needs to be addressed instantly. The point of stopping a shooter is to make things safe NOW. Two minutes afterwards is moot. Sarge is right, gotta stop em now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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