nickbfishn Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Is it just me, or does anyone else notice their lower is a NFA? Granted it’s a knock off of course with their branding, but nonetheless an NFA. Link to comment
MHitchcock Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 NFA makes lowers for like 10 companies. Nothing new Link to comment
nickbfishn Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, MHitchcock said: NFA makes lowers for like 10 companies. Nothing new On Facebook I asked directly “is this an NFA lower” and their response was, “no, CK lower”. I was like okie dokie ? Link to comment
MHitchcock Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Well technically its not a "NFA branded lower" but it may be made by them Edited October 31, 2017 by MHitchcock Link to comment
scooterj Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The lowers are being cut in house at CK Arms shop in Camilla GA Link to comment
nickbfishn Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Well at least it’s a good looking $900 gun!? Edited October 31, 2017 by nickbfishn Link to comment
MHitchcock Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, scooterj said: The lowers are being cut in house at CK Arms shop in Camilla GA I haven't seen pics of the CK rifles (not shooting an AR9 platform anymore). An NFA lower wouldnt have been a bad thing. ***on a side note could be cut in house using NFA cnc file. In any event I'm sure anything CK puts out will run and perform well. I was very happy with my CK pistols** Edited October 31, 2017 by MHitchcock Link to comment
nickbfishn Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, MHitchcock said: I haven't seen pics of the CK rifles (not shooting an AR9 platform anymore). An NFA lower wouldnt have been a bad thing. I agree. One of my pcc’s is an NFA and it works. It’s a little sloppy in the magwell and my mags can rock back and fourth quite a bit. But as long as I don’t touch the mag or have anything touching it that would change the feed angle then it runs fine. Otherwise, it’s jam city. Link to comment
Screaminyz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Is it possible NFA sends out 80% lowers and some of the companies just finish them up. I don’t see how somebody can call their lower when it is identical to the NFA design. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
MHitchcock Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Screaminyz said: Is it possible NFA sends out 80% lowers and some of the companies just finish them up. I don’t see how somebody can call their lower when it is identical to the NFA design. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Because they are manufacturing it. It is just like mil-spec AR-15 lowers. The same could be said for the vast majority of 2011 items that are built to a certain spec. It is a pattern. NFA just happens to be one of the most common in the AR-9 pattern. I don't think it is wrong for them to call it their lower, they are manufacturing it in house. Link to comment
reverse_edge Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, MHitchcock said: Because they are manufacturing it. It is just like mil-spec AR-15 lowers. The same could be said for the vast majority of 2011 items that are built to a certain spec. It is a pattern. NFA just happens to be one of the most common in the AR-9 pattern. I don't think it is wrong for them to call it their lower, they are manufacturing it in house. Yep. Link to comment
nickbfishn Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Perhaps the term NFA-spec 9mm lower should be used when describing this variety of lower. However, I don’t know if NFA owns the patent, or was simply the first to make that design. It’s like the Kleenex of 9mm lowers. 10 companies make facial tissue, but we call all of them Kleenex. Link to comment
RangerTrace Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 They told us they are machining them in-house and the photo above seems to indicate that. Link to comment
TRUBL Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Ever wonder if these "NFA Lowers" aren't actually 80%er's that are being finished up in house. Anyone ever think of that? I mean.....at 80%, they can be paper weights and if made over seas, pretty much a dime a dozen. The other thought is.....maybe there is a machine program out there or a model that everyone is programming off of? BUT.......being the manufacturing engineer type that I am.......I'd guess the first one.....because, if I had the model, I'd have to change it up a little to make unique over all the others out there. Edited October 31, 2017 by TRUBL Link to comment
bmiller Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 There is NFA lower 3d model on grabcad. Link to comment
Aircooled6racer Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Hello: Either way, as long as they work what is the difference? I still like my QC10 lowers and my Sig MPX. Thanks, Eric Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If it is the same design and measurements as the NFA, that's a good thing. NFA is excellent about supplying replacements for the proprietary parts on their lowers. Link to comment
jlo86cj Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 hours ago, TRUBL said: Ever wonder if these "NFA Lowers" aren't actually 80%er's that are being finished up in house. Anyone ever think of that? I mean.....at 80%, they can be paper weights and if made over seas, pretty much a dime a dozen. The other thought is.....maybe there is a machine program out there or a model that everyone is programming off of? BUT.......being the manufacturing engineer type that I am.......I'd guess the first one.....because, if I had the model, I'd have to change it up a little to make unique over all the others out there. https://newfrontierarmory.com/shop/80-c-9-billet-lower-receiver-glock-style-mags/ Link to comment
scooterj Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 This just released on CKArms FB page: We have another 50 lowers machined and going out for anodizing. When they return (should be 2-3 weeks) we will continue filling orders. Just a heads up, the introductory price ends on midnight of "Black Friday" so go reserve your rifle while you can! Link to comment
jualdeaux Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Here are a couple of pics I got today of the Production PCC. Edited November 2, 2017 by jualdeaux Link to comment
TRUBL Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I will say.......Bobby does have a great reputation and he is not gonna put junk out, thats for sure. Price point awesome. Link to comment
Bdshot Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) The lower that everyone is referring to is actually an Aero Precision design, not NFA. Its easily DLed from grab cad and a few other sites. Edited November 7, 2017 by Bdshot Link to comment
bmiller Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 The one I am referring to is a NFA with qd scockets incorporated into the design. It has the model for the ejector as well. I have never seen an Aero precision dedicated pcc lower. Link to comment
Bdshot Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 18 hours ago, bmiller said: The one I am referring to is a NFA with qd scockets incorporated into the design. It has the model for the ejector as well. I have never seen an Aero precision dedicated pcc lower. Aero never produced it. They just designed it. And the NFA lower is that design. Link to comment
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