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Walther PPQ Q5 Match - Loads?

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On 5/15/2018 at 11:22 AM, Bobforshak said:

I just completed my hand loads for my Q5.  I tested a number of different powders, Titegroup, 231, unique, power pistol, and wsf.  I was going for the powder with the most consistent FPS.  I tested 135 grain plated flat nose and 147 grain plate round nose bullets with Winchester primers my length is 1.145.  I found that 231 was the most constant with 135 grain ammo.  With 147 grain bullets titegroup was the most consistent.  The most inconsistent powder was WSF by far.  I settled on the titegroup because the 147s felt like they had less recoil.  I'm shooting IDPA and need to make a 125 power factor.  With 2.9 grains of titegroup my FPS was 875 at 75 degrees and 900 at 95 degres.  I'm happy with the accuracy of the load although after reading this forum a may shorten the length a bit.  I did have one double feed after about 800 rounds, my guess is It was a fluke.

 

Maybe try 1.13 for the Walther.  I used to use my 2011 loads for the q5, which are 1.145 and I would have a few issues every so often.  Wether it was a double feed, or a ftf. But since i went 1.13, haven’t had issues. 

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Thanks for the information. Just ordered my Q5 and this will help out on getting my loads setup with the 147 round nose bullets COL.

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My favorite load for the walther is

3.9-4.0 gr power pistol

147 gr fp blue bullet

winchester primer

1.13 oal

132pf at nationals

Most accurate load with the powders I had at the time.

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On 12/15/2018 at 6:16 PM, sanjiro said:

Thanks for the information. Just ordered my Q5 and this will help out on getting my loads setup with the 147 round nose bullets COL.

 

Choose your maximum OAL by conducting a plunk and spin test to find the longest you can load your bullets in your particular barrel.

 

Never choose a length because some guy on the internet, or even some reloading manual, said to do so. Not without testing things yourself, anyway.

 

(Load up a dummy round and see if it will drop into your gun’s chamber and spin without any drag. If if won’t, you’re engaging the rifling and accuracy or relability may suffer.)

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21 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said:

 

Choose your maximum OAL by conducting a plunk and spin test to find the longest you can load your bullets in your particular barrel.

 

Never choose a length because some guy on the internet, or even some reloading manual, said to do so. Not without testing things yourself, anyway.

 

(Load up a dummy round and see if it will drop into your gun’s chamber and spin without any drag. If if won’t, you’re engaging the rifling and accuracy or relability may suffer.)

Thanks for the info. 

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Looking at the data here I'm guessing my existing loads (for a 4" m&p) are going to be a bit too hot for the Q5.

 

3.6gr N320 with Xtreme 147 and 4.2gr N320 with ACME 124gr. Both make 135 PF in the M&P

 

I'll work up new loads and share the data here

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I am running 3.8gr of N310 with 125gr bullet, blues or gallant and chronoed 131pf at 4 majors last year. 

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Here's some loads I tested today

3.6gr N320 Xtreme 147gr 1.150" - 136PF
4.2gr N320 ACME 124gr 1.150" - 133PF
4.0gr N320 ACME 124gr 1.150" - 127PF

Have a sample pack of Brazos bullets coming which I'll test in the 4.1-4.2gr range where my ACME will be loaded too

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3.2gr Sport Pistol, SNS 147gr RNFP, 1.130 oal - 134 PF

3.4gr W231, SNS 147gr RNFP, 1.130 oal - 132PF

 

Both group free hand 1.5 inch at 20 yards

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Posted (edited)

I finally got out to test my rounds through my Q5. I was f*#king around with my crimp and I had slightly over crimped a few rounds in the batch(I'm a reloading noob). Not sure if that would account for the couple of 1100+ fps rounds. All in all it's a soft shooting round with great accuracy. 

 

124gn Campro CPRN

3.7gn Titegroup

1.1 OAL

Federal Primers

 

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Edited by darks1d3

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Posted (edited)

145gr acme, 2.8gr TG @ 1.120"-1.125". 

Edited by echotango

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On 1/25/2019 at 8:25 PM, A6Gator said:

Anyone loading 135gr Blue Bullets over N320 or WST?

I was using 135 Blues with TG and it grouped horribly. Was not a fan. 

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I’m running 125 grain round nose blue bullets over 4.1 grains of W231 with CCI small pistol primers. Using mixed range brass. 

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