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I'm looking at upgrading my belt setup over the season and looking for input. I am really looking at the ELS best because I currently use tecloks and whenever I have a full belt it's not velcro'd anywhere on the belt, it just hangs there. Yes I have tried velcro on the back of the tecloks but I don't like it because I can't easily remove the tecloks. If you use ELS what are some things to make it better or do you like it the way it is. And how do you do your holster. I've seen just tecloks or something like the qls or RTI mounts, I want to be able to remove it easily What does everyone perfer and pros and cons of each. I will be using this for 3 gun and a little USPSA so I need to be able to switch gear quickly

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My Bladetech set-up is TekLoks with industrial adhesive velcro added. Then I mounted male TMMS to the ekLok with the release tab facing up. I attached the female TMMS to the holster, magpuch, shell caddy. IMHO it's a better setup than ELS since you can freely position your gear where you want on the belt (not limited to the hole spacing of an ELS belt), it's quick change between stages and you can use whichever bely you like, DAA, Bladetech, JRHolster, CR Speed.

 

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Have you tried using a Carbon arms racthet system? I have the Safariland and it works well but I am waiting on my ratchet now to try and get the belt even tighter.

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I have determined I am going to use the Carbon Arms belt with the ratchet system. The belt is a plastic and has enough holes for whatever mounting system you choose. I'm choosing the ELS for everything including the holster because I'm getting a good deal on stuff from Safariland. I'm also getting there shotshell caddies. I won one earlier this year and it's awesome how it works. The only downside is you have to adjust for the length of the shells, but they don't move when your using them

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I’m in the same boat looking for a belt for USPSA and 3gun, anyone have any experience with the Carbon Arms complete belt?


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My belt is ELS and it's great for placing and swapping equipment. I do wish I had a ratchet system with it as some guys at my local matches do, but I've never used one myself.

 

I'm a big fan of the Safariland caddy and Ghost mag pouches (with my buddy's 3D printed adapter design). As far as attaching the hoster, I use a Boss Plus hanger and just an ELS fork which has been great. 

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I use cr speed but recently ordered an ELS system from safariland. I had an awesome discount and went for it. Hopefully it’s everything I believe it is!!


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Switched to the ELS last year and for 3 Gun it is damn near a must because of how quick it it to change things up however I am not overjoyed with the belt itself but like everything  in the game there is no perfect solution 

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Recently got my Carbon Arms belt and ratchet system in the mail. I also bought one of their inner belts with is pretty flimsy for the extra 15 dollars. Maybe it won't matter because you can synch your belt down so tight. I plastic belt is pretty stiff and I like it so far. Paired with the ELS and I think it's a winning setup

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Love my ELS belt. I like it even more since I added the carbon arms ratchet system.

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Love my ELS belt. I like it even more since I added the carbon arms ratchet system.

What is the ratchet system? I mean I know what it is but does it utilize your existing safariland els belt?


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Oh yeah....got my ELS system and have to say I LOVE it. Need some more mag holders and shell caddies but definitely see why it’s better than other options.


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2 hours ago, mattmann said:


What is the ratchet system? I mean I know what it is but does it utilize your existing safariland els belt?


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Yes it does. You typically cut the stainless nubs of in order to use it. Then you just use Chicago screws to attach it to the belt.

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ELS Belt

RHT holster and mag pouches 

Safariland AR mag pouch 

Carbon Arms pinwheels shotgun shell caddies

Springer Drop offset 

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Just setup my ELS rig and it was a huge improvement to the belts I have been using. I will definitely be looking into the ratchet system to make it a little quicker to get off/on


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Ive seen a couple of guys at our local matches who have put on the ratchet system.  I wasn't in the same squad with them, however I asked another guy about the ratchet system and he said that they used ratchet's from old roller blades or snowboard bindings.  Anyone else tried this?

 

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22 hours ago, Pcew73 said:

Ive seen a couple of guys at our local matches who have put on the ratchet system.  I wasn't in the same squad with them, however I asked another guy about the ratchet system and he said that they used ratchet's from old roller blades or snowboard bindings.  Anyone else tried this?

 

Pretty much the same concept I imagine. If you're a DIYer it could work.

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I use aluminum female mounts on a regular gun belt with the ELS folks. Way more solid than the normal ELS system and I don't have to use the crappy belt.

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Personally not a huge fan of the ELS belt however for 3 gun it is almost the only choice and with the carbon arms ratchet system it is growing on me 

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I just added the Carbon Arms ratchet system to my ELS belt........I think it's gonna be the way to go.

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The ratchet strap may have been the best $20 I’ve spent on 3 gun gear.  Be sure you use a little blue lock tite on the screws.  Mine kept backing out 

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Els belt with safariland mag pouches and AR pouches Carbon Armas shell caddies Red Hill Holster on a Springer drop 

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I use cr speed belts and added ratchet buckles this summer. Wish I would've added them years ago. I ordered them direct from M2. I shoot open (Saiga) so no caddies on the 3 gun belt.595806f82b7105ad427bca4a0a523995.jpg

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