Funny load request.

[orangeride]

My local club started a monthly outdoor night match. My normal day load 147gr bear creek moly and 3gr TG while normally not very smoky durning the day, seemed pretty smoky at night with a light mounted. I'm looking to work up a dedicated "night" load. I'm going to try 147gr xtreeme HP's, but I'm not sure on the powder. Any help would be nice. Shooting in a g34

[dapribek]

Power Pistol is not very smoky but it has a very bright flash which might not be great at night. 

[Guy Neill]

Vihtavuori powders are fairly low flash.

 

Guy

[iflyskyhigh]

My go to subsonic load for my G34 after hundreds of rounds of testing. Shoot it suppressed as well. I've shot it day and night and haven't noticed any smoke. It's cheap and accurate.

I know most guys find the sweet spot to be the 135 PF range so this is a little high but still in the ball park. Shoots soft enough for me.

I'm guessing it's the hot burning TG combined with the moly that's giving you a little smoke.

147gr RMR PRN
Titegroup
3.4grs 968 FPS G34 (942FPS)
COAL 1.150-1.160"
ISMI 11LB Spring

Set: 265
Created: 02/24/17 13:21PM
Description: RMR 147gr PRN 9MM
Notes 1: RMR 0.355 FMJ/RN ENC 35597 147 0.675
Notes 2: 3.4grs Titegroup
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212
Bullet Weight(gr): 147.00
Temp: 63 °F
BP: 30.09 inHg
Altitude: 0.00
# FPS FT-LBS PF
10 948 293.39 139.36
9 975 310.34 143.32
8 970 307.17 142.59
7 973 309.07 143.03
6 970 307.17 142.59
5 967 305.27 142.15
4 978 312.26 143.77
3 964 303.38 141.71
2 981 314.17 144.21
1 959 300.24 140.97
Average: 968.5 FPS
SD: 9.7 FPS
Min: 948 FPS
Max: 981 FPS
Spread: 33 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.8
True MV: 972 FPS
Group Size (in): 0.00

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[wrench459]

Black powder will lay down a smoke screen.

 

Night time shooting

close one eye

Edited September 19, 2017 by wrench459

[orangeride]

30 minutes ago, wrench459 said:

Black powder will lay down a smoke screen.

 

Haha. One guy on my squad layed down so much smoke no one could shoot for 4-5 min. Made the stage look pretty cool

Edited September 19, 2017 by orangeride

[superdude]

The new Sport Pistol might be worth a try. It appears to have low smoke. 

 

http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/sport-pistol.aspx

 

 

[jcc7x7]

Wsf seems pretty low flash

Not totally sure about smoke

[Vmax606]

The smoke is from the moly coating, not the powder. Use plated bullets if the targets are not too far and extreme accuracy is not required.

Edited September 19, 2017 by Vmax606

[missed it by that much]

+1 plated extreme bullets you plan on using should reduce the smoke even with TG

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[bowenbuilt]

After running into the smoke issue early in the Summer when the air became humid in the afternoon I found Sport Pistol to be the least smokey of all the more popular powders with coated bullets and smokeless with jacketed bullets. There was a dramatic difference If that helps.

[rustybayonet]

On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 8:31 PM, dapribek said:

Power Pistol is not very smoky but it has a very bright flash which might not be great at night. 

for night shooting stay away from power pistol, unless you want to be showy. I'm using it in my last batch of round and even in a lighted indoor range it has a very bright flash.

[MemphisMechanic]

On 9/19/2017 at 12:01 PM, Vmax606 said:

The smoke is from the moly coating, not the powder. Use plated bullets if the targets are not too far and extreme accuracy is not required.

Titegroup is also pretty smoky entirely on its own. Switching to another powder will reduce the smoke, even with jacketed rounds.