Bryan 45 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Flyfred- I think this is similar to multi-gun in the equipment respect. As long as your rifle is zeroed and you have the skill to use it, equipment doesn't really matter too much. We like to think we can purchase performance, but it really all comes down to training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Speaking of training, and seeing as how we have people from 21 different states registered already - I'll let everyone in on a little secret: Kentucky has hills!!! Here's an elevation map of the 5k Course: And here is the 10k Course elevation map: Edited December 18, 2017 by Matt in TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 I am pleased to announce that Glock will be sponsoring the obstacle at Stage 3: "Glock's Slide To The Pit Of Despair", and will be providing a pistol certificate for the prize table. https://us.glock.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If anyone is curious about the mud, this is what I looked like by Stage 2 at last year's match: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Dog Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 If anyone is curious about the mud, this is what I looked like by Stage 2 at last year's match: I have been thinking about pictures like that as I make my equipment choices. I have also been thinking of the magazine I saw laying in the low crawl pit in one of the vids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I got in the shower with my rifle after that match. Expect gear to get broken (both scope caps off my scope - a neoprene scope coat works better), gear to get lost (there are 5-10 magazines sitting on the lost and found table after every match - get a retention holster and mag pouches), and probably some malfunctions and jams (more lube is usually better). I don't run with my most expensive gear, just my dead reliable gear. And plan on going through a ton of CLP when you get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 7 hours ago, ClangClang said: I got in the shower with my rifle after that match. I love it! There is definitely a lot of literal hosing down of competitors and equipment in the parking lot after the match - just remember to take pictures first! As important as the equipment is the gear used to protect the equipment (holsters and mag pouches). The more you can protect your gear, the less hardy it has to be - but the slower it is to access. Everything is a trade-off, but race guns and gear usually has a pretty tough time. Look at what our guys in the sandbox use and do something similar. To be fair - some very experienced operators had all kinds of malfunctions because they were used to dealing with sand and had never operated in mud before. They went back and changed several ideas they had after this match. And after all this, it'll probably be bone dry next year. We don't really go looking for mud, but mother nature seems to enjoy seeing us wallow in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 I am excited to announce Nosler has signed on as a sponsor of the obstacle on Stage 2: Nosler's Over Under. https://www.nosler.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) I am thrilled to welcome Vortex Optics to our match as a Stage Sponsor! I'm putting them on Stage 1: Vortex Optics' Grenade!!! Their optics are supposed to be bombproof - let's see how they do with grenades. :-) http://www.vortexoptics.com/ Edit: I had some issues with the Vortex logo showing up on some platforms, so made my own pic from last year's match. Pretty sure that says "Strike Eagle" underneath all the mud! Photo credit: Lisa Stennett Edited December 21, 2017 by Matt in TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Alright - you know all the shooting stages, so let's talk about obstacles. Here's the obstacle for Stage 1: The Samson Manufacturing "Down & Dirty": Crawl under barbed wire, move through three mud pits, and climb up the inside of a tube with the assistance of a weighted rope. Once at the top, use that rope to pull up the 30lb kettlebell attached to the end of the rope. Shout “FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!” and throw the kettlebell and rope back down the tube for the next guy. If you’re at the bottom of the tube and hear “FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!”, dodging flying kettlebells just because part of this obstacle. If you ran last March, this is identical to that obstacle with the addition of a rope in BOTH tubes, and weights on the ropes to be sure they go back down for the next guy to climb up - and of course having to haul the weight up and tire out your arms just before shooting. You can thank Bryan Ray for that small piece of evil - as the sponsor's representative he got to help design the obstacle! Samson is also providing SEVERAL of the steel pistol targets for this match, and are a HUGE supporter of the shooting sports across the board. Be sure to thank them when you place your next order! http://www.samson-mfg.com/ Edited December 28, 2017 by Matt in TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Because I'm a giant nerd I love to look at data in different ways, the map below shows all the states that currently have people registered (22 total). The larger the dot, the more people from that state are registered. If you've been thinking "I'd really like to come, but it's just too far" - there's probably somebody coming further than you! We still have 13 10k slots left. Get in now while you still can! https://practiscore.com/10k-rockcastle-run-n-gun-2018/register Edited December 28, 2017 by Matt in TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Need to find someone from South Carolina just to round out the South. And if I lived in Kansas, I'd be coming just to find a reason to leave Kansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bryan 45 said: Need to find someone from South Carolina just to round out the South. And if I lived in Kansas, I'd be coming just to find a reason to leave Kansas. Yep. We've got a funny gap in South Carolina and West Virginia we need to fill! We're going to have to step it up - I know a guy (and a girl) currently in Kansas that is an excellent Run N Gunner. I'm pretty sure he wants out of Kansas too... Edited December 28, 2017 by Matt in TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 Someone asked about what kind of ages I've been seeing in the registration so far in another thread, and I thought the answer was cool enough to share with everyone. So, as of today, here's how it shakes out: 5k Average Age 38 5k Max Age 71 5k Min Age 12 5k Median Age 36 10k Average Age 37 10k Max Age 61 10k Min Age 24 10k Median Age 32 I really would have thought the average age would be much lower. And I can't tell you how happy I am to see the extremely wide spread of ages involved. This is so cool!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 The obstacle at Stage two is fairly simple: Nosler's Over/Under. You'll have two obstacles you have to go over that will be set at a convenient nut-busting height, and three obstacles you have to crawl under - alternating to force you down, up, down, up, down. The "under" obstacles will be various types of fencing stretched between posts, as someone pointed out crawling under and/or through fences is a very "real world applicable skill". Thanks to Nosler for providing $500 in bullets or ammunition to the prize table, and please note that "simple" does NOT always equal "easy"! https://www.nosler.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Been quite some time since I had to carry junk like this around much. Things have changed. I decided to combined a little old and new. I went with the Alice pouches for protection. Two for rifle and one for pistol. Took it out for a 4mile spin. Rode great with no bounce and no interference with my legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Very nice - I like how you hooked the ALICE belt to the Camelbak! I'm a little confused how you can be a Yankee Dog in Alabama though. I do have a Canadian-Alabamian friend, so maybe it's similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Dog Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'm a little confused how you can be a Yankee Dog in Alabama though. I do have a Canadian-Alabamian friend, so maybe it's similar?Born in Michigan. Lived in the south for going on 35 years. But I am still considered a Yankee. Just figured I would embrace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Yankee Dog said: Born in Michigan. Lived in the south for going on 35 years. But I am still considered a Yankee. Just figured I would embrace it. I grew up in Oregon. My wife wanted to have a "Redneck Party" when I officially had been in the South longer than I'd been out West. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 I am pleased to announce Federal Premium Ammunition has just signed on as an obstacle sponsor and will be providing a great spread of American Eagle 9mm and 40 cal ammo for the prize table! https://www.federalpremium.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 I mentioned this one already with the sponsorship announcement, but just to stick with the pattern: The obstacle for Stage 3 will be Glock's Slide To The Pit Of Despair: Simply enter the tube at the top of the hill and slide down to just above the cave entrance. Try your best NOT to get beat up by your gear on the way down, TO get out of the tube with all of the gear you went into it with, and to NOT continue tumbling on down the hill when you get out of the tube. Cool points added if you shout "Wheeee!!!!" on the way down! https://us.glock.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 The Stage 4 obstacle is only for 10k people. There will be a 2" wide cargo strap strung tightly between two trees approximately 40' apart and about 4' high. You must cross this strap with all your gear without touching the ground. If you fall or touch the ground in between the trees, you must "dismount" and start completely over until you get it right. Simple, right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 My favorite part about these matches is the amazing positive vibe that absolutely permeates everyone and everything having anything to do with this match. We have a LOT of new people coming this year, so Run N Gun Veterans PLEASE help me share the culture with all these new people. To start this, I'll repost this message from last year: For those of you who have trained your whole lives for something like this, this match will be awesome! You will finally have a place you can put all of your skills together in a match that plays to your strengths, and you'll feel like a thoroughbred finally set free to run. For those of you who have NEVER attempted anything like this, are intimidated by all of the crazy workouts posted here, and are having severe second thoughts lately - it will be even better. Whatever you do, JUST DON'T QUIT. The satisfaction and self-image you will get from just finishing this course will stay with you forever, and is something no one can ever take away from you. Many people have found matches like these to be a turning point in their lives, and in a year or two you may not even recognize the person you have become. Just remember - for every person you see pass you, there is someone behind you wishing they could keep up with you. And before ANYONE judges anyone else as being "too slow, too fat, or too lazy" - bite your tongue and listen to their story first. Across the country at matches like these we've had people recovering from recent strokes, heart attacks, cancer, pregnancy, amputations, and any other issue you can think of; just because "F#$K CANCER", that's why! Give them an encouraging word when you pass them - it really makes a difference. Even better - if you pass someone really struggling on the course: finish your race, set down your gear, and run back out to find that person. You can run beside them and offer them all the words of support and encouragement that you can think of - you just can't physically help them in any way. I want nothing more than to see the last straggler trudging their way up the last leg of the course in the waning minutes of daylight, accompanied by forty of their newest friends cheering them on. Help me to make this happen. Let's do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Stage 5 Obstacle (10k Only): Barbed Wire Crawl. I had some complaints last year that "gamers" put a quick and disposable cover over their gear to get through the first barbed wire crawl and we didn't give them a good test of their gear. So this year just before Stage 5 you'll have to crawl again. Because who doesn't like barbed wire and mud??? Sorry 5k guys - you only get ONE barbed wire crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Scoring, Trophies, & Prizes: Every Run N Gun is a little different and we have several newbies signed up for this one, so I thought a post about scoring, trophies, and prizes was worthwhile. First, the non-negotiables: You are free to carry a loaded pistol in your holster throughout the run, but if at any time that loaded pistol hits the ground for any reason, in any place - you forfeit the course and your match is over. Your rifle can ONLY be loaded AFTER the buzzer goes off during a shooting stage. If you are found with a round in your rifle (doesn't matter if it's in the chamber or not - a loaded magazine inserted in your magwell counts) ANYWHERE but while actively shooting a stage, you forfeit the course and your match is over. ROs will be checking for an empty rifle both as soon as you arrive at a stage and just before you leave, but in the end it is the COMPETITOR's responsibility to be sure both of these things happen. Half of your score will be based on your net overall run time (the time it takes you to complete the course). The other half of your score will be based off the combined shooting score from all of your shooting stages. At each shooting stage you will have no longer than three minutes to complete the course of fire. If you neutralize all the targets before the three minutes is up, your actual shoot time is recorded on your score card. If at the end of three minutes you have any targets not fully neutralized as per the stage description, 10 seconds will be added to your shoot time for each target not neutralized. 20 seconds will be added to your shoot time for each "no shoot" hit (one hit or many - doesn't matter). You must continue shooting until you either neutralize all the targets or you run out of time - you cannot quit early and just "take the penalty". Because I enjoy things that are useful instead of just pretty - and we're in the heart of bourbon country - the trophies this year will be custom-engraved bourbon glasses (provided by http://www.fireflycustom.com/home). There will be trophies for the following: 5k 1st Place Race Class 5k 2nd Place Race Class 5k 1st Place Combat Class 5k Top Grunt (highest scoring military - active or retired) 5k Amazon (highest scoring female) 10k 1st Place Race Class 10k 2nd Place Race Class 10k 1st Place Combat Class 10k Top Grunt (highest scoring military - active or retired) 10k Amazon (highest scoring female) 15k Trooper (highest combined 5k & 10k score) We will randomly draw competitors for $7,500 in prizes at the awards ceremony at the end of each night (there will be a separate awards ceremony for the 5k and the 10k). Must be present to win. Prizes are provided by our generous sponsors: Magpul Industries Corp., Sierra Bullets, Vortex Optics, Samson Manufacturing, Nosler, GLOCK, Federal Premium, ASE Precision, Dillon Precision Products, Inc, and Zero Bullets Edited February 8, 2018 by Matt in TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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