GrumpyOne Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 What are the pro's and con's of each? Link to comment
Les Snyder Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 my reload with a standard length Glock pistol mag is a lot quicker than with a 33 round Colt stick mag, and doesn't need special mag pouch...easier for me to load cartridges in my Glock 33 rounders with a TF 41 extension than with my Metalform Colt mags... the blue steel mags rust (I accidentally placed a sweaty wrist band on them in the gun bag)... I don't have a LRBHO in my Glock based PCC so don't have to worry about breaking the bolt catch like I did with my SBR and mag block....the front angle of my NFA lower is slanted at the same angle as needed to insert the mag and I use it as a visual reference Colt stick looks cooler, especially if you grew up watching "Combat" on TV as a kid Link to comment
nate89 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I had QC10 glock lower, and I sold it to another local shooter looking to get into PCC so I could buy the QC10 Colt lower. I bought it mostly to mimic my AR as a cheaper to shoot training gun, and allowed me to shoot at steel closer than I felt comfortable with .223 rounds. I like how they insert at 90 degrees as opposed to angled forward. One is not better or worse, just personal preference and I like the 90 degree better. I also wanted a BHO, so that was easier to make work with the colt mags. I have the mag-lula for the colt mags, and it works very well and makes loading mags, even the last few rounds, very easy to do. I also have a longer buffer, so breaking the bolt catch is less of an issue for me. Another consideration for me, as a lefty, was the ability to use a standard drop-in ambi mag release like the Troy or Forward Controld Design. It took a minute to swap, and required no modification to the lower. When shooting classifiers in PCC, many times the mag change is what kills you time-wise. The ability to use my left index finger to remove the old mag while going for the new mag with my right hand, instead of taking the mag out and getting the new one with my right hand has saved me time on standing reloads that you do in many classifiers. Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I already had a crap load of Glock magazines sitting on the bench. Since I did not know if I would like PCC, I wanted to do it on the cheap. Turns out I really enjoy PCC and I'm quite happy with my Glock magazine guns. Link to comment
OPENB Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Some feel the Colt is inherently more reliable because of the feed ramp the Glock style does not have, unless you cut up your upper and add the Taccom one. I currently have both styles, and the only real difference is the added ambi mag release on the PSA Colt lower (I'm left handed). Both have been reliable once de-bugged. Colt/Metalform mags from PSA are half the price of Glock mags, in big sticks. Sometimes 1/3 the price, when they are on sale for $12. Bmiller just made me a magwell for my dedicated Colt style, and Taccom makes an inexpensive one for most other lowers. Unless you're left handed, I'd take either one. Link to comment
GrumpyOne Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, nate89 said: I had QC10 glock lower, and I sold it to another local shooter looking to get into PCC so I could buy the QC10 Colt lower. I bought it mostly to mimic my AR as a cheaper to shoot training gun, and allowed me to shoot at steel closer than I felt comfortable with .223 rounds. I like how they insert at 90 degrees as opposed to angled forward. One is not better or worse, just personal preference and I like the 90 degree better. I also wanted a BHO, so that was easier to make work with the colt mags. I have the mag-lula for the colt mags, and it works very well and makes loading mags, even the last few rounds, very easy to do. I also have a longer buffer, so breaking the bolt catch is less of an issue for me. Another consideration for me, as a lefty, was the ability to use a standard drop-in ambi mag release like the Troy or Forward Controld Design. It took a minute to swap, and required no modification to the lower. When shooting classifiers in PCC, many times the mag change is what kills you time-wise. The ability to use my left index finger to remove the old mag while going for the new mag with my right hand, instead of taking the mag out and getting the new one with my right hand has saved me time on standing reloads that you do in many classifiers. You may have just sold it to me...lefty with rifle as well Link to comment
OPENB Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Forgot to mention, Ghost 360 pouches fit Colt mags perfectly. $14 at Shooters Connection for the Hybrid pouches, which come with the flat pouches only, not the bullets-out. Link to comment
Aircooled6racer Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Hello: I would say Colt mags if you are a lefty and are used to regular AR15 reloads. Glock mags if you have a Glock or lots of Glock mags. Is one better than the other I don't think so if you practice with each. Whatever way you decide to go get a good quality lower to start with and a great trigger. Makes your PCC a real joy to shoot. Thanks, Eric Link to comment
nate89 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 You may have just sold it to me...lefty with rifle as wellI think your classifier times will thank you. Best of luck on the build, and post pictures when you get it finished!Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530AZ using Tapatalk Link to comment
mike4045 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I use Uzi/ Colt mags. The fit in mag pouches made for STI. I use double alpha or CR speed for mine. I went with this mag setup because that's what the builder recommended. He has been building guns longer than most have been alive so I figured he might know a little. I also like the reload angle better on the colt platform. Mike Link to comment
XD Niner Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 One advantage I've found with the Glock style mags is that I can use Magpul clones. I have a 17-round Magpul that I use for classifier reloads. The plastic is much slicker than the Glock rubberized coating so it goes in faster and more reliably. Andy, If you want to try my PSA AR-9 just let me know and we can meet at GTR. Link to comment
Aircooled6racer Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 56 minutes ago, XD Niner said: One advantage I've found with the Glock style mags is that I can use Magpul clones. I have a 17-round Magpul that I use for classifier reloads. The plastic is much slicker than the Glock rubberized coating so it goes in faster and more reliably. Andy, If you want to try my PSA AR-9 just let me know and we can meet at GTR. Hello: I am using the Magpul 21 round Glock 17 magazines for reloads and classifiers. No base pad needed and they are slick. One thing with the magpul mags are that they are very lightweight. I have some Magpul 17 round mags coming with some Zev Magpul base pads. I will try those for classifiers which require reloads. I may try some Glock 19 mags as well for going prone or steel challenge. Nothing drops faster than the Colt style mags, but they hurt if you drop them on your foot with no shoe on. Thanks, Eric Link to comment
diesel-man1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I use the ASC Colt style mags from Gun Mag Warehouse which IMHO is the only place to buy any type of mag. I have had zero feed issues in competitions or otherwise plus they are relatively inexpensive. For those of you that like to do 80% lowers SMF Tactical has a 9mm gun in a box, cut the receiver, assemble and away you go. Link to comment
OPENB Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I read somewhere that PSA is no longer selling Metalform, only ASC & C products. Must be why they had so many sales on them recently. Glad I got a couple dozen. Link to comment
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