Chris54326 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I loaded up 100 9mm rounds with 6.1 gr BE-86 under a 115 gr FMJ bullet. Just a little "brisk" for me even though I liked the accuracy and got used to the recoil toward the end of the session. I know the recommended starting point is 10% less at 5.5 gr, but I'm curious as to how far down in weight I can safely go with this powder and bullet combination in the caliber. (which I'll be trying next) Alliant won't comment other than the 10% reduced starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs62 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) I haven't loaded any 115's with BE-86 but I have loaded 124's (Berry's PRN), OAL was 1.150", here's my chrono results I settled in on the 4.8 as it gave me a PF of 132 and was accurate: BE-86 Powder Gr Avg Velocity 4.8 1,063 5.0 1,094 5.2 1,139 5.4 1,150 Edited August 10, 2017 by cs62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris54326 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Thanks for the data, but all I have to work with, at present, are 115 gr FMJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs62 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 OK, if you come across some HP-38 I did run a small trial with it and 115's: 4.8 1,095 avg 5.0 1.125 avg (this is what I ended up loading to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris54326 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Thanks, I've a stash of HP-38........will add it to my "give it a try" list. I just loaded a hundred of the BE-86 at 5.5 gr. Interested to see how they shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewski Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Funny you should ask... This morning I ran some 115s coated - a mix of Blue Bullets, ACME and BBIs - loaded with 5.0 and 5.2 grains of BE-86. The BB loads were 1.15 and the ACME and BBI loads were 1.13. Note that this is out of a 16 inch JP barrel on a carbine. The 5.0 load averaged 1240 and the 5.2 loads averaged 1320. Accuracy was good - maybe 1 inch at 30 yards over a hasty rest - groups were uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris54326 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 I'm shooting a Browning Hi-Power, but very interesting info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I run 124 Bayous on top of 4.4 grs BE-86 at 1.130" and it goes about 1,040 fps out of a G17 with a BarSto barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eo1bart Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Last year I loaded up a box of Hornady 115 XTP's with BE-86. Here's the chrono data; 5.6gr=1,192fps 5.8gr=1,247fps The 5.8gr felt real snappy in my Hi Power so I didn't go beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterk1234 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hi guys, I just stumbled onto this thread. I have been loading BE-86 for my 9mm loads. I had settled on 4.7 gr but we just purchased a new gun that is requiring me to use shorter OAL, so I started to mess around with loads again. I have some 4.4, 4.7 an 5.2. I did a little bit of benchrest testing at 25 yards but I need to spend a bit more time doing it to figure at which load the gun likes the best. I am using an OAL of 1.120 for now. Bullet: MBC 124 grain coated conical. It was interesting to see somebody loading at 4.4 grains as well. Super light load. Most of the stuff I have read on other forums show people sticking in the 5.2 to 5.6 range. How do you go about settling on a final load? Is it the lightest you can get away with that still has good accuracy, or some other factor? Thanks Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Close to the Minor floor with reasonable accuracy. Most USPSA shots are 2-15 yards, it's not Bullseye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eo1bart Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) peterk When I was testing the MBC 124 gr cone bullets with BE-86, I found 4.7 gr to be the best overall for recoil and accuracy. I use this for steel challenge matches, and It also makes minor PF if needed. Chrono Data- Beretta 92, OAL=1.14 4.4gr=1,015 fps 4.6gr=1,053fps 4.7gr=1,080fps 4.8gr=1,090fps Edited September 3, 2017 by eo1bart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeRick Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 1.070 OAL RMR MPR 124gr JHP Walter PPQ Q5 match 5" barrel. 10 shot groups. Group 1 5.4gr BE-86 Avg 1202 S-D 21.4 ES 78 Group 2 5.5gr BE-86 Avg 1221 S-D 10.6 ES 28 Group 3 5.6gr BE-86 Avg 1228 S-D 11.4 ES 41 Group 4 5.7gr BE-86 Avg 1243 S-D 8.1 ES 23 Group 5 5.8gr BE-86 Avg 1257 S-D 17.2 ES 59 Group 6 5.9gr BE-86 Avg 1262 S-D 18.1 ES 48 Edited September 4, 2017 by DudeRick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohvall Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I load 5.2 grains of BE-86 under a Zero 115 grain JHP-C and it's a very accurate, soft shooting load in my Glock 34. The same powder charge with an Xtreme 115 gr heavy plate concave base RN bullet also works well. You'll probably need to go up to 5.6 grains of BE-86 to make Minor PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Dude, that's a PF of 149 to 156. Way over the Minor Floor. Do you use this load for USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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