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9 hours ago, stick said:

Has anyone tried it in their PCC?  I'm also curious to see their load for 124gr bullets.  

 

Also in a PCC with 147 gr bullets. 

 

Opened my last 4# jug of N-320 so ordered 12# of Sport Pistol. 

 

Hope its as good as they say.

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58 minutes ago, Flatland Shooter said:

 

Also in a PCC with 147 gr bullets. 

 

Opened my last 4# jug of N-320 so ordered 12# of Sport Pistol. 

 

Hope its as good as they say.

 

If'n you don't like it, let me know.

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6 hours ago, Flatland Shooter said:

 

Also in a PCC with 147 gr bullets. 

 

Opened my last 4# jug of N-320 so ordered 12# of Sport Pistol. 

 

Hope its as good as they say.

What does the felt recoil feel like?  

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54 minutes ago, stick said:

What does the felt recoil feel like?  

 

Hope its like the N-320.  Once it runs out I'll open a jug of the Sport Pistol.

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58 minutes ago, muncie21 said:

Me 3

 

Me 4 as soon as I find some on a shelf. Too cheap to pay Hazmat...

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Graf and sons has it on sell right know for 130 bucks for eight pounds with free hazmat only 7.95 shipping this is about a good has it gets. You have to use the word (boom) for the free hazmat (promo code).

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4 minutes ago, Dwbsig said:

Graf and sons has it on sell right know for 130 bucks for eight pounds with free hazmat only 7.95 shipping this is about a good has it gets. You have to use the word (boom) for the free hazmat (promo code).

Don’t tell me that.  I have other stuff to buy.  

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58 minutes ago, CTJer said:

Don’t tell me that.  I have other stuff to buy.  

Lol I don't  need any yet either but I'm learning to get this stuff while its on sell. Also sometimes when you get ready to get some you can't find it.

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So as I'm getting ready to load up on the Sport Pistol Powder on sale at Grafs.  I thought that Prima V was back in stock at PV, however when you go to add it to the cart, it shows out of stock.  Looks like I'm going to be trying me some Sport Pistol

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2 hours ago, muncie21 said:

So as I'm getting ready to load up on the Sport Pistol Powder on sale at Grafs.  I thought that Prima V was back in stock at PV, however when you go to add it to the cart, it shows out of stock.  Looks like I'm going to be trying me some Sport Pistol

I think you'll be ok. I've loaded with both Prima V and Sport Pistol for 9mm minor (Production gun). For my purposes they are so similar; I'm not sensitive enough to tell the difference.

 

 

 

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On 8/27/2018 at 1:33 AM, stick said:

Has anyone tried it in their PCC?  I'm also curious to see their load for 124gr bullets.  Lastly, how's the felt recoil compared to Titegroup?  I'm a creature of habit.  When I find something I like, I stick with it.  I've been loading Titegroup for a long time and I still have over 8lbs remaining, but I've heard good things about this powder.

I've just started shooting it in my PCC. Running Blue 135 TC's though. 16" barrel. 

 

I'm at 3.0gr of sport pistol loaded to 1.12" if I'm loading specifically to my pcc. 

 

Gives me 995fps (134PF) with an ES of 22 and SD of 9.4. Feels quite nice in the PCC. 

 

Alternatively, run the same bullet/COL in my Shadow 2 with 3.4gr. 

 

Its 978fps (132Pf) in the shadow and 1083fps (146Pf) in the 16" PCC. Still feels ok. 

 

Even this hotter PCC load feels nicer than a comparable TG load to me. Don't hesitate to try Sport Pistol! 

 

So bump it up 0.2-0.4gr for 124's and give it a go. 

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3 hours ago, Dirty_J said:

I've just started shooting it in my PCC. Running Blue 135 TC's though. 16" barrel. 

 

I'm at 3.0gr of sport pistol loaded to 1.12" if I'm loading specifically to my pcc. 

 

Gives me 995fps (134PF) with an ES of 22 and SD of 9.4. Feels quite nice in the PCC. 

 

Alternatively, run the same bullet/COL in my Shadow 2 with 3.4gr. 

 

Its 978fps (132Pf) in the shadow and 1083fps (146Pf) in the 16" PCC. Still feels ok. 

 

Even this hotter PCC load feels nicer than a comparable TG load to me. Don't hesitate to try Sport Pistol! 

 

So bump it up 0.2-0.4gr for 124's and give it a go. 

I'll have to get some and give it a try.  Thanks for the info

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I have been looking everywhere for sport pistol load data for 40. Glock 35. Factory barrel. 

 

If you guys could help, it would be greatly appreciated! 

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On ‎10‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 9:01 PM, Eman said:

I have been looking everywhere for sport pistol load data for 40. Glock 35. Factory barrel. 

 

If you guys could help, it would be greatly appreciated! 

If you don't see a load for the bullet you're using send them an email.  Although it's been a few years since I've contacted them they are very good about getting back to you with load info.

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great post, thanks for the info.  I have been using TG for a while now.. Im interestd on trying the ASP and find out the difference.

 

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Reviving an old thread to share some load data in case anyone is interested:
Gun: Gen 4 Glock 17, factory barrel
Temp: 66 degrees
Primer: Federal SP
Brass: sorted range brass
Powder: Sport Pistol
Bullet: Bayou 124gr. RN

COAL: 1.14
All groups were 10 shot with the screen 10ft from the muzzle
3.5 gr. Avg: 959.5 fps, SD 12.7 fps, pf 119
3.8 gr. Avg: 1020 fps, SD 8 fps, pf 126.5
4.1 gr. Avg 1062 fps, SD 9.2 fps, pf 131.7
 

Note: Alliant data shows 1066 fps with 3.9 grains out of 4" barrel and a COAL of 1.05 with the acme 124gr. RN-NLG.

 

 

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I'd like to share my results loading 9mm with Sport Pistol. My goal is to make USPSA minor power factor legal loads and super light loads for steel challenge for my pistols and my PCC. I started out with DWBSig's data and have been working from there. I had been using Titegroup and 231. The Titegroup I didn't like, to snappy. The 231 shot well but was smoky and dirty. Sport Pistol feels similar to 231 to me, but I am able to get the same or better velocities with less powder, and it is cleaner, not totally smokeless but close. For comparison, using 3.7 grains of 231 in the Sig 226 got me 128 power factor.  I made up some test loads and only tested for velocity. I tested 103 grain and 147 grain poly coated bullets that a local guy makes. They are sized to .356 after coating. I shoot USPSA, Steel Challenge and various other outlaw USPSA style matches. I use a Dillon 650 press.

 

103 grain Truncated Cone Poly coated bullet

mixed range pickup brass

CCI 500 primers

1.090 OAL

M&P 9L Performance with Vortex Venom Red Dot, 5" stock non ported barrel 13# IMSI recoil spring on stock guide rod

3.2 grains 757/770/789 FPS 80 Power Factor  FAILED

3.4 grains 826/840/836 FPS 86 Power Factor FAILED

3.6 grains 983/951/957 FPS 100 Power Factor Functioned but barely

 

Sig 226 4.5" barrel stock recoil spring, stock guide rod

3.2 grains 816/855/821 FPS 85 Power Factor FAILED

3.4 grains 863/859/848 FPS 88 Power Factor FAILED

3.6 grains 967/969/985 FPS 100 Power Factor Functioned but barely

 

Palmetto State Armory PCC 16" barrel Blitzkrieg buffer with .308 carbine length spring and a 1" tall flat wound wave spring

3.2 grains 1059/988/988 FPS 104 Power Factor

3.4 grains 1066/1056/1049 FPS 108 Power Factor

3.6 grains 1100/1123/1142 FPS 115 Power Factor

All these loads shot incredibly soft, reliable and will be great for steel challenge

 

147 grain Round Nose Poly coated bullet

mixed range pickup brass

CCI 500 primers

1.125 OAL

M&P 9L Performance with Vortex Venom Red Dot, 5" stock non ported barrel 13# IMSI recoil spring on stock guide rod

3.2 grains 898/897/882 FPS 131 Power Factor This is now my go to load for USPSA

3.4 grains 920/913/905 FPS 134 Power Factor

3.6 grains 958/947/943 FPS 139 Power Factor

 

Sig 226 4.5" barrel stock recoil spring, stock guide rod

3.2 grains 865/866/861 FPS 127 Power Factor

3.4 grains 895/900/893 FPS 131 Power Factor

3.6 grains 937/951/942 FPS 138 Power Factor

 

Palmetto State Armory PCC 16" barrel, Blitzkrieg buffer with a .308 carbine length spring and a 1" tall flat wound wave spring

3.2 grains 1013/1014/976 FPS 147 Power Factor

3.4 grains 1051/1041/1057 FPS 154 Power Factor

3.6 grains 1082/1087/1091 FPS 159 Power Factor

These loads while hotter then the 103's still feel good and shoot well.

 

I plan to further develop the 103 grain bullet loads for the PCC for when I need to make minor power factor.  I hope this info helps someone out. If you have questions, please ask. I am new to this but will do my best to answer.

 

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been absolutely loving the Sport Pistol. Been loading 147gr blue bullets over 3.2 grains of sp out of a G34 for a calm 130pf. 

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I plan to further develop the 103 grain bullet loads for the PCC for when I need to make minor power factor.  I hope this info helps someone out. If you have questions, please ask. I am new to this but will do my best to answer.


I loaded some 100gr .356 lead round nose projectiles with WSP primers and 5.2gr of Sport Pistol for my Taccom ULW PCC upper (5.5” barrel) and averaged 136 power factor with it. It was a little snappier than I normally like, but it cycled very fast for double tapping paper. I will probably drop down a bit to 4.7gr which should put me around 125ish.



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I tried some sport pistol with 124gr bullets yesterday.  Results are below.  

 

CZ P09 (4.54" barrel)
9mm Acme 124 Grain RN-NLG Coated (new profile)
4.0 grains Sport Pistol
1.11 OAL 
WSP
.377 crimp

 

Temp: 48°F
Altitude: 70.00

 

#    FPS       PF
5    1101      136.52  
4    1097      136.03  
3    1091      135.28  
2    1088      134.91  
1    1094      135.66 
 
Average: 1094.2 FPS
SD: 5.1 FPS
Min: 1088 FPS
Max: 1101 FPS
Spread: 13 FPS

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Just got 4 lbs of Alliant Sport Pistol and chronoed a few loads through my SIG X-Five.

 

SP 3.16 gr (AVG of ten)

ACME 147 FP (actual AVG weight of ten 148.2)

CCI

WIN once fired brass

AVG COL 1.128

 

AVG of ten shots 891 (133 PF)

StDev 6

Range 19

 

SP 3.28 gr

ACME 147 (Actual AVG weight 148.2)

CCI

FED once fired brass

AVG COL 1.122 (seated deeper for some reason)

 

AVG of ten shots 909 (134 PF)

StDev 9

Range 33

 

For comparison, my current load:

 

Vectan Ba9.5  = 3.65 gr

ACME 147

CCI

Mixed brass

AVG COL 1.122

 

AVG of ten shots 897 (133 PF)

StDev 9

Range 28

 

I did not notice any major difference in accuracy among three. My next load would be SP 3.30-ish

 

Cheers

 

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How did increasing powder charge lead to same or slightly lower velocity/power factor?

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