rowdyb Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 I had a very specific issue, so don't be scared. With the gun empty and the slide locked back is the only place this was an issue. So with the pistol in that condition, without a basepad that would meet the frame, I could slam a mag home it would go past the mag catch and prevent the reload from happening and locking the slide in place. My issue was solely with doing slide lock reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotx1 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Not sure if this has been addressed or if anyone saw this but it looks like Hennings redid their basepads for the shadow 2 and supposedly fixed the overinsertion issue. Anyone have any luck with these? the price is right at 18 bucks a piece for 6... Henning CZ Shadow 2 PRO Production Base Pad https://benstoegerproshop.com/henning-cz-shadow-2-pro-production-base-pad/ Just ordered some. Hennings said there should be no issues with these on mec gar 17 rd. tubes. Edited August 16, 2018 by Foxtrotx1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Foxtrotx1 said: Not sure if this has been addressed or if anyone saw this but it looks like Hennings redid their basepads for the shadow 2 and supposedly fixed the overinsertion issue. Anyone have any luck with these? the price is right at 18 bucks a piece for 6... Henning CZ Shadow 2 PRO Production Base Pad https://benstoegerproshop.com/henning-cz-shadow-2-pro-production-base-pad/ Just ordered some. Hennings said there should be no issues with these on mec gar 17 rd. tubes. I had been using that with my factory shadow 2 mags and mecgar 17 rd mag tubes with no over insertion problems at all. I like them a lot because it doesn’t have the extended front lip that messes me up when I grab a mag from my belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotx1 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to using these over the stock pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALAR Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I know this is an old thread but I recently came across this same issue. I guess I really shoved the magazine in hard because I locked up the slide release and actually thought I broke something for a second. So I came across this and bought 12 CZC basepads for some of my 17rd Mec Gars but what has surprised me the most is that these basepads have what to the eye is the same amount of gap from the bottom of the gun to the top of the base pad. My guess is that they are only taller by some almost unseeable amount, like .010 -.020" and that is enough to correct the issue. I was thinking they would seat closer to flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 FWIW, some Shadow 2's are slightly shorter top to bottom than others which is why some pads work for some people and some don't. The latest gen Shockbottle CZ-SF3 pads are the tallest and should prevent overinsertion in almost all of them, but could cause failure-to-lock in SP01s. The SF2 a little less so and the SF1s are better for SP01's and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALAR Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, shred said: FWIW, some Shadow 2's are slightly shorter top to bottom than others which is why some pads work for some people and some don't. The latest gen Shockbottle CZ-SF3 pads are the tallest and should prevent overinsertion in almost all of them, but could cause failure-to-lock in SP01s. The SF2 a little less so and the SF1s are better for SP01's and the like. I know since the frames are cast there is quite a bit of variation so a true "flush fit" would require custom fitting to each gun and be completely unnecessary. Out of curiosity I might get a set of feeler gages and check the gap with a few Mec-Gar 17s on both a Shadow 1 and Shadow 2 and then my new base pads just to see how "tight" these margins and "issues" are. Edited June 28, 2020 by FALAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hey.moe Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 For anyone still looking at using Henning +0 base pads, I've been using the redesigned PRO version on 17-round Mec-Gar AFCs for about a year in both of my Shadow 2s as well as my SP-01 Shadow with great success. No over-insertion issues, and I'm able to make the gun "auto-forward" from slide lock if I want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 yeah the older Henning ones work great with the a mag well on a Shadow 2 whereas the new ones don't, but the new ones of course work perfect on a regular Shadow 2's mags (I run both sets in my various guns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanniek71 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Super useful thread, thanks all for the info. Just ran in to the over insertion issue last night, which is strange since I have one of the first few shadow 2's that CZC ever shipped out. I also have a newer shadow 2 and can't recreate the over insertion issue on that gun. All the sudden became an issue overnight really in my match gun. Must have gotten stronger or something lol. Anyways swapping out my 1st gen Henning base pads for the new Pro's to remedy the issue. Edited July 15, 2021 by Vanniek71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES13Raven Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Anyone running the Henning Pro basepads with the factory CZUB magwell? Any compatibility issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChef1 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 6/7/2017 at 1:29 PM, PRanta said: Could you use a O-ring at the base of mag tube? It need to be thick enough. Otherwise the mag could stuck. I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravofox Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 get grams followers and it won't lock back anymore, problem solved, no permanent modifications to the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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