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I'm trying to compile load data for Ramshot Silhouette.  I've seen many threads that mention it so I thought I'd start one for Silhouette only to make it easier to follow.  Please post your favorite Silhouette loads and make sure to include bullet type/mfg, weight, grains of powder, velocity and any other data you have like temperature as I've heard this powder is temp. sensitive.

 

I'll be posting my first try next week with the following:

 

9mm (major)

7.8 grains

Berry's 124g HBRN, heavy plated

1.16 OAL

Velocity:  tbd

Temp: tbd  (outdoor)

Chrono Type:  LabRadar

 

Gun:  CK 2011 - 5" with 2 popple holes and Bedell 3-Port (MaxComp) Titanium Compensator

 

I really like how this powder meters and so far has been the most consistent of all powders I've used.  Could be because it is so small and harder to clog but I like loading with it.  We'll see what the chrono says.  I'm worried about the temperature sensitivity however since I tend to cut it close at the chrono table.

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I'm running 8.7grns with 115g coated with a 1.158 oal out of a 5" STI with a bedell comp and 2-3/16" popple holes. Runs about 1500-1550 depending on the day. I've also ran serveral thousand mg115 with this same recipe.


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For 38 Super:  (through 5.4" schuemann barrel with three ports)

 

Silhouette @ 8.3gr

124gr MG JHP at 1.235", or MG FMJ/CMJ at 1.250" oal

Tula or Win SRP, or CCI SPP

1392 fps avg = 172pf

 

I like 124 grainers better than 115 grain bullets with this powder in 38 super.  Accurate, and shoots well with no pressure signs.  

 

 

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9 minor - Shadow 2 - 147grn plated

132pf, 147grain plated truncated 9mm bullet, 1.095" OAL, 4.25grain Silhouette

 

9 minor - Shadow 1 - 147grn plated

132pf, 147grain plated truncated 9mm bullet, 1.095" OAL, 4.45grain Silhouette

 

9 major - Czechmate - 124grn FMJ

170pf, 124grain FMJ 9mm bullet, 1.165" OAK, 7.2grain Silhouette

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Here is the here the load data that I have compiled for Sil.

 

OAL 1.160  124gr Berry Round nose.

 

Sil (7.8Gr TPB) Hot Day Sil (7.8Gr TPB) Hot Day SIL (8.0Gr TPB) Hot Day SIL (8.0Gr TPB) Hot Day
1349 167 1345 167 1368 170 1380 171
1370 170 1344 167 1394 173 1399 173
1384 172 1344 167 1424 177 1380 171
1397 173 1352 168 1432 178 1426 177
1390 172 1350 167 1386 172 1403 174
1341 166 1361 169 1399 173 1394 173
1374 170 1337 166 1407 174 1402 174
1333 165 1356 168 1394 173 1383 171
1371 170 1368 170 1415 175 1378 171
1337 166 1348 167 1427 177 1402 174
               
1365 169 1351 167 1405 174 1395 173

 

TPB is the Berry new Triple Plate bullets.

 

Here is some of my old load data, weather was extremely cold.  Bullets were the standard Berry 124gr round nose.

Sil (7.5 Gr) Cold Day Sil (7.8 Gr) Cold Day Sil (8.0Gr) Cold Day
1336 166 1366 169 1390 172
1325 164 1381 171 1348 167
1350 167 1402 174 1384 172
1341 166 1407 174 1446 179
1312 163 1404 174 1371 170
1340 166 1373 170 1407 174
1355 168 1410 175 1399 173
1321 164 1375 171 1350 167
1325 164 1384 172 1436 178
1308 162 1399 173 1399 173
           
1331 165 1390 172 1393 173

 

Have a great day.

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Created: 06-17-2017 01:51:32 PM
Description: 8.0g Ramshot Silhouette
Notes 1: 8.0g Ramshot Silhouette
Notes 2: Berrys hbrn 1.16 OAL
Distance to Chrono (FT): 21.00
Bullet Weight (gr): 124g Berry's 124g hbrn
Altitude (FT): 500
Temp: 66 °F
BP: 29.92 inHG
Shots
#     FPS        FT-LBS     PF
20    1448       577.40     179.55    
19    1423       557.63     176.45    
18    1365       513.10     169.26    
17    1402       541.29     173.85    
16    1418       553.72     175.83    
15    1442       572.62     178.81    
14    1356       506.36     168.14    
13    1436       567.87     178.06    
12    1436       567.87     178.06    
11    1443       573.42     178.93    
10    1438       569.45     178.31    
9     1440       571.03     178.56    
8     1438       569.45     178.31    
7     1372       518.38     170.13    
6     1441       571.83     178.68    
5     1450       578.99     179.80    
4     1430       563.13     177.32    
3     1432       564.71     177.57    
2     1452       580.59     180.05    
1     1457       584.60     180.67    
Average: 1425.95
StdDev: 29.37
Min: 1356
Max: 1457
Spread: 101
True MV: 1429.35
Shots/sec: 0.57
Group Size (IN): .50 benchrest
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Created: 06-17-2017 01:55:41 PM
Description: 8.6g Ramshot Silhouette
Notes 1: 8.6g Ramshot Silhouette
Notes 2: Precision Delta JHP 1.16 OAL
Distance to Chrono (FT): 21.00
Bullet Weight (gr): 115 JHP
Altitude (FT): 500
Temp: 66 °F
BP: 29.92 inHG
Shots
#     FPS        FT-LBS     PF
12    1430       522.26     164.45    
11    1541       606.48     177.21    
10    1555       617.55     178.82    
9     1529       597.07     175.84    
8     1548       612.01     178.02    
7     1456       541.42     167.44    
6     1554       616.76     178.71    
5     1535       601.77     176.52    
4     1539       604.91     176.99    
3     1538       604.12     176.87    
2     1531       598.64     176.07    
1     1526       594.73     175.49    
Average: 1523.50
StdDev: 39.08
Min: 1430
Max: 1555
Spread: 125
True MV: 1527.13
Shots/sec: 0.60
Group Size (IN): .25 benchrest

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Created: 06-17-2017 01:57:11 PM
Description: 8.8g Ramshot Silhouette
Notes 1: 8.8g Ramshot Silhouette
Notes 2: Precision Delta JHP 1.16 OAL
Distance to Chrono (FT): 21.00
Bullet Weight (gr): 115
Altitude (FT): 500
Temp: 66 °F
BP: 29.92 inHG
Shots
#     FPS        FT-LBS     PF
7     1545       609.64     177.68    
6     1552       615.17     178.48    
5     1547       611.21     177.90    
4     1544       608.85     177.56    
3     1560       621.53     179.40    
2     1568       627.92     180.32    
1     1463       546.64     168.24    
Average: 1539.86
StdDev: 34.99
Min: 1463
Max: 1568
Spread: 105
True MV: 1543.53
Shots/sec: 0.88
Group Size (IN): .25 benchrest
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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On 5/26/2017 at 7:58 PM, adamge said:

9 minor - Shadow 2 - 147grn plated

132pf, 147grain plated truncated 9mm bullet, 1.095" OAL, 4.25grain Silhouette

[update: this load chrono'd 134 PF at a IPSC Level 3 match in 28deg Celsius weather]

 

9 minor - Shadow 1 - 147grn plated

132pf, 147grain plated truncated 9mm bullet, 1.095" OAL, 4.45grain Silhouette

 

9 major - Czechmate - 124grn FMJ

170pf, 124grain FMJ 9mm bullet, 1.165" OAK, 7.2grain Silhouette

 

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Created: 08-08-2018 06:09:48 PM

Description: 115 PD JHP - 8.3gr Silhouette - S&B SPP - mixed brass - 1.145" - CK Open gun

Notes 1:

Notes 2:

Distance to Chrono (FT): 10.00

Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000

Bullet Weight (gr): 115.000

Altitude (FT): 3600.0

Temp: 94 °F

BP: 25.34 inHG

Shots

#     FPS     FT-LBS PF

20    1514     585.42 174.11    

19    1458     542.91 167.67    

18    1495     570.82 171.93    

17    1504     577.71 172.96    

16    1471     552.64 169.16    

15    1474     554.89 169.51    

14    1501     575.41 172.62    

13    1482     560.93 170.43    

12    1469     551.13 168.93    

11    1481     560.17 170.32    

10    1492     568.53 171.58    

9     1462     545.89 168.13    

8     1471     552.64 169.16    

7     1468     550.38 168.82    

6     1464     547.39 168.36    

5     1506     579.25 173.19    

4     1459     543.66 167.79    

3     1467     549.63 168.71    

2     1462     545.89 168.13    

1     1462     545.89 168.13    

Average: 1478.10

StdDev: 17.68

Min: 1458

Max: 1514

Spread: 56

True MV: 1479.78

Shots/sec: 1.11

Group Size (IN): 0.00

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new data for the thread.  Just got done a round of ladder testing for Silhouette in my CZ checkmate.  the chamber throat is short right now so theses were loaded at around 1.130 inches since they fail the plunk test around 1.135 or so.

 

Not sure why my gun had the SD shoot up at 8.0 grains..  But would definitely look at shooting this around 8.1 or 8.2 grains for a match.

 

 

CZ Checkmate Silhouette Chrono.xls

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New data.  Just did some more testing for Silhouette in my czechmate.  Had the barrel throat reamed so I can now load out to 1.175. These were done at 1.160

My old load at 7.9 grains with the longer OAL and also changed the weight to 124 precision delta.

 

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Full spreadsheet attached.

 

CZ Czechmate Silhouette 115 and 124 grain long OAL.xlsx

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On 6/8/2017 at 4:09 PM, rustybayonet said:

For you old timers, I read that WAP is the same. 

Wac is very slightly faster.  when I was using both I needed .001 to .002 more Silk to make the same PF.

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