StealthyBlagga Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Read all about it here: ARTICLE . I think I'll stick with Metrics and Classics for my matches, thanks Edited April 24, 2017 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondog Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Seems 3gnation wants to slow down the scoring process more. Takes long enough to move shooters through the stages as it is. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicferret Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's another way to score and play the game. I'd shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Who cares. Shoot the center. Twice. Fast. And drive on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, StealthyBlagga said: Read all about it here: ARTICLE . I think I'll stick with Metrics and Classics for my matches, thanks Agreed... And the article was so full of fiction that I laughed my a$$ off... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBlasta Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's nice to see another sport embrace the IDPA target! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 A little late for April Fools. Is it possible to shoot fast enough to get a negative time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I can't remember the last match where I didn't have to explain the highly technical concept of "two hits anywhere or one A" to a newer shooter, and people still manage to screw it up. This target would easily triple the time spent scoring at any match I've attended. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 This gives me a good idea for a new target. A blank 18" x 18" piece of cardboard. Two hits anywhere and you are golden. Anything less and its a miss. Probably won't fly with any of the shooting organizations or UPS. None of them would make a cent when folks start raiding dumpster behind the local mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklab Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, TonytheTiger said: I can't remember the last match where I didn't have to explain the highly technical concept of "two hits anywhere or one A" to a newer shooter, and people still manage to screw it up. This target would easily triple the time spent scoring at any match I've attended. No thanks. It gets pretty completed when someone is shooting heavy metal and they only need one shot anywhere on the paper. It seems to throw the new shooters off a little. I always shoot twice no matter what, just because I like to make noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Flatland Shooter said: A little late for April Fools. Is it possible to shoot fast enough to get a negative time? Try that math using Time Plus with Points scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionshooter Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'm all for trying new things but this is going backwards..........Might as well go back to HF scoring for multi-gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlillyskygod Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 My vote for them is hell no don't like em. The thing is it will probably catch on. They have already changed division names for no reason. Tactical to Practical Open to unlimited etc/ that sucked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) On Monday, March 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jesse Tischauser said: Here are the rules we use at OKC Gun club. If you think you might want to use them as well. Let me know and I can send you an excel spreadsheet to use for the scoring. 2010 Red Neck Tactical 3 Gun Rules.pdf This should look very familier!!! New scoring???? Looks like this 8 year old system Trapr and I were using a while ago. It was very simple, score the target A, B, C, D and the program did the rest. I still like it! I wonder if this "New Scoring System" has some Red Neck roots!!! Edited April 25, 2017 by kurtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 As folks actually seem to be taking this target seriously, I will give a more serious answer. I foresee two significant problems with the target: 1) Actually recording the specific hits for each target on an iPad will be significantly slower than the current method, resulting either in longer beep-to-beep times, or in dumbed-down stages to stay on schedule. In my limited experience of 3GN format matches, they seem to run slow anyway, and this only makes matters worse. The 3-gun world rejected USPSA hit factor scoring for exactly this reason. 2) The location of the "upper -0.25" zone is poorly defined if you are more than a few yards away - the shooter will have to get a lot of trigger time on that target to be certain he is aiming at the right spot. This makes whether they hit it or not somewhat a matter of luck. In contrast, the "upper A/B" of an IPSC Metric target is clear to anyone from any distance. On a more personal note, I continue to dislike the politically correct aspect of the 3GN pizza box target because it implicitly attempts to deny where the sport came from. I realize I may be in the minority around here on this aspect, so I will leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 When I said "I still like it" I ment the original Red Neck Tactical scoring system! I agree with Stealthy on the shape of this "New" target and the old......not where we came from, and still not a new idea if you read that PDF I attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericm Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 This is a Hawaiian Deluxe pizza box: A nice ring of pineapple and TWO Bonus slices of pepperoni!!!! ....and, true to life, every slice of pepperoni you eat takes a quarter of a second off of your total time... ericm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, ericm said: ....and, true to life, every slice of pepperoni you eat takes a quarter of a second off of your total time... Edited April 25, 2017 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donald Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 How about just using pizza boxes? 2 hits anywhere, or one hit on the grease stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Hits on mushrooms stuck to the box is -1 second. Small pizza boxes to simulate long distances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 dumb, just dumb. 3GN has watered down true 3 gun (IMHO) for tv sakes. i'll go out on a limb and say they won't be on any channel soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsk Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 you don't have to go very far on that limb - they are not on TV this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just another reason to hate pizza. And the box it comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I like it to keep it simple. It's neutralized or it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotMRD Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Let's say F you to the rest of the 3 gun community and rename ALL the divisions and make the targets more PC than the IPSC Standard (turtle shells). Then let's complicate the scoring method. I'm all for finding a way to set yourself apart from the rest of the pack but, I think they've jumped the shark. Epic fail 3GN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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