John Dunn Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Does anyone know of any good three gun training videos for the beginner (like Ron Avery's or Matt Burkett's videos for pistol)? I read an article in Front Site about the "slide" reload, no idea what they are talking about. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt1991 Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 I haven't seen any training videos for 3-gun either. But one could do is do a little adapting of one of the video's you talked about in to a 3-gun training video. Because all the basics are all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraman1 Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 My interpretation of the slide is that you flip the shotgun over and slide the butt of it on top of your strong shoulder . This puts the loading gate right in your face thus making sure you dont fumble your reload . I practiced it in my garage and must say I like it better than just flipping the shotgun over waist high since doing the slide makes it easier to reload on the move . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAWN CARLOCK Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Having used the waist high flip and load, and converted to the slide, I don't notice any more speed in loading but a serious reduction in transition time from shooting to loading and from loading to shooting. ran about 1 second difference per reload and with 3 or 4 reloads a stage it is easy to do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike45 Posted January 27, 2003 Share Posted January 27, 2003 Using the slide method do you load off the gun e.g. sidesaddles or from the belt. I tried what I envisaged it was using a belt and got really confused! DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmilk9 Posted January 27, 2003 Share Posted January 27, 2003 Black Moon Tactical (new company) is in the process of making a intro to 3 gun shooting. My brother(Tim) and I have just started our own business doing videos, training and will have an online store. I would look for these the first week of April, website will be up and running by then also. Stay tuned....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraman1 Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 The slide is loaded via a side-saddle or a forearm carrier as near as I can tell . You may be able to use an across the chest bandolier like 3-gun gears as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAWN CARLOCK Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 THE SLIDE SEEMS TO BE MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN LOADING OFF THE GUN WITH EITHER SIDE SADDLE OR FOREARM SADDLE. 3 GUN GEAR IS PRODUCING A SIDE SADDLE WITH THE SHELLS ANGLED TOWARD THE SHOOTER, THIS WILL MAKE THE SLIDE A MORE CONSISTANT TECHNIQUE. THE SLIDE HAS SOME REAL TACTICAL ADVANTAGES, YOU CAN LOAD AND STILL MAINTAIN SOME VISION DOWN RANGE NOT JUST AT THE GROUND IN FRONT OF YOU, IT IS EASIER TO LOAD AND MOVE, AND PISTOL TRANSITIONS WHILE MAINTAINING CONTROL OF THE SHOTGUN ARE GREAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleL Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 The question I have is why would you slide the shotgun over your shoulder in a Tactical enviroment, wouldn't it make sense to load with your non firing hand so you could keep your muzzle towards the threat. Or should I say unknown. I believe the Jeff Cramblit technique of curling the shotgun in towards your bicep is the fastest I have seen. If you are rolling the blaster and releasing your forward grip this will slow you down. Also flipping the shotgun completely upside down will cause you to burn your hand as well. For three gun shooting it is a race.... No tactics involved, no threat, so shuck and jive.... KyleL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DblTap Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Quote: from KyleL on 11:10 pm on Jan. 27, 2003 The question I have is why would you slide the shotgun over your shoulder in a Tactical enviroment, wouldn't it make sense to load with your non firing hand so you could keep your muzzle towards the threat. Or should I say unknown. This works well when the muzzle crosses a target during a reload on a "run and gun" stage. Just pull the trigger and continue loading, economy of motion. The only drawback to weakhand loading I see is when prone, then the rollover/forearm carrier is handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNShooter Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 I believe if you ask Mike and I'm pretty sure Bennie , they changed loading techiques after they were shown how ( and I think it was KyleL that showed them)Jeff Cramblit has been loading for years. Jeff was working for Blackhawk when they came out with a poor copy of what he had been using (on his forarm) for a shell carrier .It now seems to be the standard "limited shotgun" loading technique and the it usually gets credited to someone else.It works extremely well for three gun shooting and if I had to duck behind cover and reload I think I'd probably use what was fastest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 the slide technique will definately be better accomplished of a side saddle than of a forearm or any other holder, I leave to each his own, and wish everyone would just stay using it, and that no more yankees would move south, both make my life easier. See ya at the match brothers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Hey TNShooter, I am working on a better than original copy/ production of my forearm holder and you and Klyle can flip each other for who gets the first one for T&E, but since he shoots one of those other guns I might lean toward you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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