waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I installed a Titan in my primary gun last night. The trigger is gross now. Lots of creep in single action before the trigger finally breaks. It seems like the hammer hooks are much taller on the titan. Did I get a bad one? I've done trigger jobs on other people's guns with the Titan and don't remember this happening, but I don't have one here to compare with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Is like a step right before it breaks right ??Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You need a new BOLO. Fitting a titan after a delta will cause The pretravel you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I assume, as he said, that you had to grind on the Bolo to fit it with your delta hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 47 minutes ago, ryridesmotox said: You need a new BOLO. Fitting a titan after a delta will cause The pretravel you are talking about. It's not pre-travel, it's creep. There's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, emjei said: Is like a step right before it breaks right ?? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Yes! I'm sure I wouldn;t notice it at speed, but slow fire I feel it and it's infuriating. I've polished and repolished the hooks, the sear face, tried two different sears...I might go back to the Delta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yes! I'm sure I wouldn;t notice it at speed, but slow fire I feel it and it's infuriating. I've polished and repolished the hooks, the sear face, tried two different sears...I might go back to the DeltaI've done 3 trigger jobs with Titan / Xtreme Sear and they all did it.... a drop of oil takes it away for a match or two Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's hard to get an accurate measure with my cheapo digital calipers but it seems like the hooks are a few thou longer on the titan. If I knew anything about real gunsmithing and had the proper jig I'd stone them down a bit but that's not likely to happen in my garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I must say.....I tried a S2 Xtreme with the Delta and it felt niceSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, waktasz said: It's hard to get an accurate measure with my cheapo digital calipers but it seems like the hooks are a few thou longer on the titan. If I knew anything about real gunsmithing and had the proper jig I'd stone them down a bit but that's not likely to happen in my garage. Your on to something about the hooks being longer on the Titan...... guess it's time to go into production with our hammer jig for cutting the hooks back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 ...or sell a modified "Super Titan" with the hooks cut in your shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) that would be better probably since a jig would be expensive. The good 1911 hammer/sear jigs are $150. So...I'll just ship you my Titan tomorrow and you'll fix it up for me Joe? Edited January 31, 2017 by waktasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, waktasz said: Do it! Seriously though..... with properly cut hooks to the Sear you can have a 8lb Da gun with a sub 2lb SA that breaks clean.... or maybe somebody should get away from the cast sears and make a CNC Sear With a Sear face designed for the Titan hammer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: ...or sell a modified "Super Titan" with the hooks cut in your shop? It would have to be the "Optimized Super Titan"....... just so we're clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Or add weigh to a Delta .... lolSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, PatriotDefense said: Seriously though..... with properly cut hooks to the Sear you can have a 8lb Da gun with a sub 2lb SA that breaks clean.... or maybe somebody should get away from the cast sears and make a CNC Sear With a Sear face designed for the Titan hammer ? Don't play with my emotions. Next thing you'll say something about it being pre polished too. That bullshit casting mark on the sear annoys me to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Tanfoglio/Xtreme would have to do that since it has to be a factory part. Cutting the hooks would be legal though (although not in IPSC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 None of us would trust their QC on it anyways the current situation in Tanfo machining is beyond terrible. I've done 3 trigger jobs on Stock2s and all have been fine with the titan. But pretty much everything else has been totally inconsistent. Probably got lucky with the hammers. If you think yours is out of spec, do you have another to test fit? Honestly, about to get rid of mine and go to something else. The tolerances on any of these factory Tanfo parts are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 I have 3 guns with Deltas. I shoot locals and practice with shit primers so I wanted to put a Titan in one to see what would happen. The trigger issue appeared after that. It's honestly not that bad but my trigger OCD definitely noticed it right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 swapped the Delta back in. Crisp as hell again. Comparing the two hammers I can't really tell a difference though. It might be hammer hook angle more than actual length. or I could be completely wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Got a micrometer? Measure the hooks and see. I polish mine... That might be the grit your feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelsonAK Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, PatriotDefense said: Seriously though..... with properly cut hooks to the Sear you can have a 8lb Da gun with a sub 2lb SA that breaks clean.... or maybe somebody should get away from the cast sears and make a CNC Sear With a Sear face designed for the Titan hammer ? Yes please - a production legal one piece sear would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 @waktaszMatt, can you post a vid of what sort of creep or step you're talking about with the Titan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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