racerba Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) I believe that the web site states that the curved trigger is approved for production, not the straight trigger. read: Shoot with a straight face (which is not USPSA legal), or go with the curved-face design which is USPSA legal. Edited October 23, 2017 by racerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Rolex said: Well- then just make a phone call to USPSA and ask them about the GG trigger- it will either be a yes or no question-- And who's the official you asked? Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 thank you- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerwong Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 When was that said or asked? Because what I had heard recently was that as long as the profile/shoe was the same, it was legal. Because the trigger controls internal components. Even back when the X5 was approved for PROD, Troy had said something to that effect: (see link) http://www.doodieproject.com/index.php?/topic/5408-dnroi-thinks-were-too-stupid-to-read-the-rulebook/#entry167388 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) While the trigger controls the internal, the trigger itself is not internal... No where in there includes the trigger: "21.5Exchange of minor INTERNAL components (strikers, sears, springs, connectors/disconnectors, and other wholly-internal parts)INTERNAL parts: This clause is NOW interpreted to mean that a broad range of INTERNAL parts may be modified or replaced – either with OFM or aftermarket parts.Special Notes/Clarifications:• Strikers, sears, springs, connectors/disconnectors, and any other part which is NOT visible when the gun is in battery is considered an INTERNAL part and may be modified or replaced unless otherwise prohibited in these provisions (see section 22 for specific prohibitions)." Edited October 23, 2017 by racerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerwong Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 racerba, it was written somewhere that if the profile/shoe is the same, then it's good to go. Cant seem to find that now, but that's why the argument is there for its legality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
center Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 23/10/2017 at 3:19 AM, terrydoc said: Can anyone tell me who makes the straight trigger for the 320? Sig offers a flat trigger for P320: https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p320-flat-trigger.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicaptain Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Ok...so I'm am now kinda confused....I just bought a brand new X5 from my LGS...WITH a straight trigger....and I have to switch it to the curved trigger to shoot USPSA Production and/or CO?.......well that sux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 This one's legalSent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkNot legal. Manufacturer claims don't override USPSA rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 racerba, it was written somewhere that if the profile/shoe is the same, then it's good to go. Cant seem to find that now, but that's why the argument is there for its legality.Show us the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 So all the high dollar aftermarket Glock and M&P triggers that are the same profile as the stock trigger/shoe are legal then. Good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, Medicaptain said: Ok...so I'm am now kinda confused....I just bought a brand new X5 from my LGS...WITH a straight trigger....and I have to switch it to the curved trigger to shoot USPSA Production and/or CO?.......well that sux Your gun comes from the factory with a Sig factory flat trigger, so its legal. If you ordered a Sig factory flat trigger from Sig and installed it another Sig P320 it would be legal as well. What's in question... (before all the "same profile" mumbo jumbo interpretation that has been coming out about Production hammer shapes, etc)... is this - is the GG flat trigger the same part that Sig uses in factory X-Fives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrydoc Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, center said: Sig offers a flat trigger for P320: https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p320-flat-trigger.html I know they do, I was asking if it was the same trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicaptain Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, sfinney said: Your gun comes from the factory with a Sig factory flat trigger, so its legal. If you ordered a Sig factory flat trigger from Sig and installed it another Sig P320 it would be legal as well. What's in question... (before all the "same profile" mumbo jumbo interpretation that has been coming out about Production hammer shapes, etc)... is this - is the GG flat trigger the same part that Sig uses in factory X-Fives? Thank you sir...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerwong Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 35 minutes ago, wtturn said: Show us the rule. Did you miss the part where I said I could not find it, but that is where the argument is arising from? No need to get all passive aggressive snarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gviz Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Are we talking about the sig P320 XFIVE? With GG competition job with flat trigger? Thanks in advance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Gviz said: Are we talking about the sig P320 XFIVE? With GG competition job with flat trigger? Thanks in advance... The factory Sig XFive has a Sig made trigger, which is flat. It does not have a GG competition job from the factory... or a GG trigger (which is similar to the Sig flat one). Or so I’m told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gviz Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sfinney said: The factory Sig XFive has a Sig made trigger, which is flat. It does not have a GG competition job from the factory... or a GG trigger (which is similar to the Sig flat one). Or so I’m told? I have a sig p320 xfive and I sent it to gg for .the competition trigger job and they replaced the trigger with gg trigger. So im reading what members posted on this thread. So, I’m understanding now is My pistol is now an open pistol and not carry optics legal pistol since the said trigger is not legal? Wow ? this is not good.... Edited October 25, 2017 by Gviz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Did you miss the part where I said I could not find it, but that is where the argument is arising from? No need to get all passive aggressive snarky. You can't find it because it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gviz Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Are you guys talking about the regular sig P320? And not an xfive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 OMG- Just call USPSA and ask them as I did- then you'll have the correct answer- and YES I did the leg work- and If I post the answer I received here- the fight will continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The P320 X5 is legal in production you just have to take off the factory mag well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Tonka said: The P320 X5 is legal in production you just have to take off the factory mag well. Yes. Unless you put an aftermarket trigger in it. Or someone puts a rule in writing saying you can change any external part you want on your Production gun as long as it looks sorta like the factory part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHLChris Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 What insert are folks using for CR Speed Versa Mag pouches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 What insert are folks using for CR Speed Versa Mag pouches?I used the sti insert with a rubber washer behind it Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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