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So I am looking for a AR500 silhouette 2/3, 66%, A-C zone, or whatever you want to call it. I will be using it for 9 and 223. Who has the best deals on such a thing currently? I don't need a stand. Is there a significant advantage to using 1/2" instead of 3/8? 

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Anyone have experience with AR500-targets .com? They are only 3/8 I know. 

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1/2" can be used for high power rifles too (at appropriate distance obviously).

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Check out MOA targets I have a bunch of the 95% C zones, they are $100 each and ship free on orders over $150. Mine are 3/8" stand up well to 223

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3 hours ago, The Donald said:

Check out MOA targets I have a bunch of the 95% C zones, they are $100 each and ship free on orders over $150. Mine are 3/8" stand up well to 223

Okay so I went to the website. I can't find the targets you are talking about. 

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4 hours ago, Swanny10 said:

Okay so I went to the website. I can't find the targets you are talking about. 

My bad I found it. I was looking for a pic of it. For some reason there isn't one. 

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If just for pistol, normal pistol like 9mm (minor), .40S&W, and .45ACP, 3/8ths thick AR500 will do just fine.

 

I am in southern Illinois, so I have not been able to test the targets I used to make against a centerfire rifle like .223 and 7.62X39.

 

I got in a bad batch of AR500 once that I sold to SWAT team friend.  I ended up buying the targets back because his .223 and .308 were zipping right through it.  Those were 3/8ths.  

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9 minutes ago, johnbu said:

3/8" is too thin for .223 as others have said.

I have quite a few 3/8" AR500 targets that have thousands of rounds of 223 on them.  They are fine. 

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1 hour ago, Chills1994 said:

If just for pistol, normal pistol like 9mm (minor), .40S&W, and .45ACP, 3/8ths thick AR500 will do just fine.

 

I am in southern Illinois, so I have not been able to test the targets I used to make against a centerfire rifle like .223 and 7.62X39.

 

I got in a bad batch of AR500 once that I sold to SWAT team friend.  I ended up buying the targets back because his .223 and .308 were zipping right through it.  Those were 3/8ths.  

 

Heck, for standard non magnum pistol loads, I have targets made out of non abrasion resistant steels that have held up just fine.  I know I have some "A" zone targets that are A514, that have a few years worth of practicing on them... with no substantial cratering.  A36 is a no go though.

 

If I was manufacturing steel targets from AR500, I'd want a mill test report on any material I was using.

Because like you, I've seen "AR500" targets behave like mild steel.   

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I made my own circular plates out of 1/2" thick A36 years ago.

 

They held up fine to .45ACP.

 

.223 and .30-06 at 100 and 200 yards cratered them badly...well, just one of them.

 

I think the last AR500 targets that I had my steel supplier plasmaCAM or torchCAM out for me were:

 

A.  Not really AR500

 

Or

 

B.  The heat affected them too much.

 

They were meant to look like a "Mickey Mouse ears" profile or silhouette such that the "ears" had holes in them to hang them from chains.

 

I kinda got a weird feeling about those targets when I picked them up.  I should have paid attention to my spidey senses.

 

For me, just a guy building them on the side, the thought of the liability involved should something catastrophic happen was keeping me up at night.

 

So those were the last "AR500" targets I sold.

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I have GT 8" plates that I have shot over 10K rounds on with 9mm with no damage. 

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Check out Best Targets in Mooresville NC. They have lots of different steel targets. Reasonable prices too



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For pistol you can get away with AR400.  I shoot 1/4" AR400 plates with my pistols (9mm, 10mm, 40 S&W, 38 Super Comp, 45 ACP) and have no cratering.  I shoot 3/8" AR400 with high powered rifles out past 300 yards.  I have 1/2" AR500 C zone targets that I shoot as close as you want to chance it with 5.56/223.  We cut them out with a high def plasma table.  I have had the AR 500 have nicks on the edge when shot with 223/5.56 from close range.  I work for a steel fabrication company and all of the steel has mill certs (which is something I don't think a lot of these target makers have for their steel) but you should be fine with 1/2" or 3/8" AR500 for 223/5.56 and pistols.  If you want just pistol targets, I'd save the money and go with AR400

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GT Targets. Carl is great to work with. 

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I recently just bought some AC Zone targets from Red Stitch. I have also had good luck with Carl at GT Targets, super great guy. You may also look at Blue Steel.

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https://www.ar500targetsolutions.com/product/2-ar500-12x20-x-38″-23-ipda-ipsc-silhouette-steel-target/?gclid=CjwKCAjwjIHeBRAnEiwAhYT2h_QJUbENurKgnIPKNJza8rJlCka8W5dLeqAOfu_lcoqAO_iLHkFMvxoCwgsQAvD_BwE

 

cheapest I could find out there for IPSC/USPSA style

 

1/2 is totally unnecessary until you get to things more powerful than 308.

 

To punch a hole in AR500 is no easy task. It's legit armor plating. You need AP rounds at a close distance to blow holes through.

 

The damage rounds do to plates at short range dimples the surface. The thickness of the plate does not matter.

 

 

Karl is a great guy to. Squadded with him several times.

 

 

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