tedahlenius85 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) So I just got my new Stock2 xtreme SF. Took it to the range today for the first time. Here's my thoughts; First, coming from a Shadow, Shadow Orange actually, it felt heavier but very well balanced. Drawing the gun is about the same since the grip is not that much different to begin with. Recoil felt slightly better with the s2x. I dont think it shoots much flatter, but the front sight seems to return to the right position better and more consistent. Dont know if this is due to me gripping the gun different or if it just the gun, probably the gun cause of what I wrote about the grip beeing quite similiar to the CZ. The trigger is worse, but I guess its not a fair comparison since the Shadow Orange had about 50k rounds through it and some dryfiring. This s2x is brand new, so there is probably lots of improvement to be expected after breaking the gun in. The negatives; Grip screws! Really, what were they thinking? a shallow slotted screw that loosened up after 50 rounds. And when I tried to tight it down I almost rounded the hole thing. Really weak screws. Ordered torx grip screws, cause these got to go. Trigger, yeah as I said, here is room for improvement. In DA for sure. SA is not a big deal. Not a triggersnob in SA, but I want a clean DA. Hard time setting those Fiocchi primers off. This seems like a federal only gun, atleast if 100% reliable. Sure, it will probably be better after breaking the parts in. But I had to go xtreme medium on hammer spring, and xtreme light fp spring to set these primers off. Tried the xtreme light spring and had less than 50% going boom. I will try the titan hammer along with light spring, but not convinced that is enough. Mags getting stuck. Yeah, slamming the mag in made it stuck. Bigtime too. Had a hard time pulling them out. The xtreme basepads took some beating against the magwell so I guess thats were the problem lies. But I am up for suggestions. Going to slidelock and them slamming a mag in trying to get the slide to chamber a round was a no go. Didnt close the slide, only managed to ge at mag stuck. Waiting for some Henning basepads, maybe that will solve the problem?! Overall I am happy with the gun and looking forward to be shooting it. Since I am a IPSC competitor I'm not allowed to polish stuff up looking like a mirror. But as long as I get my reloads to run 100% and not getting mags stuck in gun, then I'm not worried that this Unicorn and I will do just fine. Edited October 25, 2016 by tedahlenius85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMateo487 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 The bummer about IPSC and Tanfos. Is I feel a mirror polish is completely necessary to run any hammer spring lighter than stock. I don't even know if it's possible to light off everything without a mirror polish. I think you might have to settle on popping the lightest primers only if you want a good trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellas Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 If you are shooting reloaded ammo , the first thing you need to do for every tanfoglio is to seat the primer well . I Have the stock 2 and a friend of mine has the Extreme version ,and limited cusomt xtreme , he had the same issue with primers not igniting but after seating the primer well they all went off with 13lb spring both guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOODS Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Are those stock grips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbob21 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Are those stock grips?Also interested... they looks sweet and grippySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedahlenius85 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 If you are shooting reloaded ammo , the first thing you need to do for every tanfoglio is to seat the primer well . I Have the stock 2 and a friend of mine has the Extreme version ,and limited cusomt xtreme , he had the same issue with primers not igniting but after seating the primer well they all went off with 13lb spring both guns.Shooting reloads but cant adjust seating depth on my 650. So that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedahlenius85 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Are those stock grips?LOK Palm swell bogies for CZ 75. Trimmed at the bottom to fit this small frame. Great grips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellas Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 my friend loads on a dillon 550 and i on a lnl ap , just seat the primer to the max , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbob21 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Shooting reloads but cant adjust seating depth on my 650. So that sucks. Isn't there a screw assembly underneath the shell plate area? A rev B seater assembly? Looks like a bolt with a spring to cushion it during the downstroke.Mine actually comes loose and I have to adjust it by hand every so often, if not the primers don't get pressed in far enough (the screw backs out and the primers end up sticking out past flush from the case) and sometimes don't get set off by my 12lb hammer spring...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedahlenius85 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Isn't there a screw assembly underneath the shell plate area? A rev B seater assembly? Looks like a bolt with a spring to cushion it during the downstroke.Mine actually comes loose and I have to adjust it by hand every so often, if not the primers don't get pressed in far enough (the screw backs out and the primers end up sticking out past flush from the case) and sometimes don't get set off by my 12lb hammer spring...Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI will check next time I load, but as far as I know there is no adjustment to be made by seating them deaper. If so, Im glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Your ignition could be related to loading too long. Have you "plunk tested" your rounds? medium/light combination should set off everything, because your having trouble, something's not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedahlenius85 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Your ignition could be related to loading too long. Have you "plunk tested" your rounds? medium/light combination should set off everything, because your having trouble, something's not right. Yep, spin just fine when plunk tested. Medium hammer/light fp spring ingnited primers reliably. But light/light did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 The Light/light might pop primers after the rest of the gun gets worn in a bit. too bad you can't polish! but without a bit of smoothing.... you may have to keep the M/L combination. Have you tried Wolf, Tula or Winchester? Not sure what else you can get. fiocchi is pretty hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Wolf / Tula / Winchester? Winchester is softer than the rest of those, from my experience. Haven't tried Fioccchi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Oddly, I'm seeing wolf as easy to pop as winchester. I wasn't expecting that! But I didn't optimize primer depth with the wins. Using PD13 hammer springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) I had nothing but problems popping Fiocchi... Never again. I'll stick with Winchester primers... Have 10k inbound Edited October 26, 2016 by ryridesmotox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 hours ago, ryridesmotox said: I had nothing but problems popping Fiocchi... Never again. I'll stick with Winchester primers... Have 10k inbound I'd heard they are a step harder to pop than SB... I need to run factory hammer spring to pop SB 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellas Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 fiocchi , ginex, murom , magtech never a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, johnbu said: I'd heard they are a step harder to pop than SB... I need to run factory hammer spring to pop SB 100%. Could be exactly that. It might have also been my chamber at the time. That match was a tough one lol... I went to a clipped FP spring, 14lbs hammer spring, and finally dropped in the stock FP and about halfway through was able to clear stages with only 1 or 2 malfunctions. Second match, polished up everything again, FP and everything, mirror like, feed ramp, even got some in the chamber to kind of help. Nothing in the chamber seats properly... Still with the CCI primers cases it seemed to work, until I hit the God dang classifier lol. Every time... I swear if you have me a bone stock glock17 It would not run for me on a classifier. Edited October 27, 2016 by ryridesmotox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Classifiers also boot me in the butt. Nearly guaranteed to have a mike or some other unique odd fault to quash an otherwise decent match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancher5 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 If you are shooting reloaded ammo , the first thing you need to do for every tanfoglio is to seat the primer well . I Have the stock 2 and a friend of mine has the Extreme version ,and limited cusomt xtreme , he had the same issue with primers not igniting but after seating the primer well they all went off with 13lb spring both guns.Change firing pin out for an extended,Henning has them, fairly reasonable Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellas Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, rancher5 said: Change firing pin out for an extended,Henning has them, fairly reasonable Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk my setup is purely stock no extreme parts ,hennings etc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, rancher5 said: Change firing pin out for an extended,Henning has them, fairly reasonable Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk The lighter Henning pin has been conclusively proven here on BE to have a harder time setting off primers than the heavier stock / EGD Xtreme pins - which are identical aside from a chromed coating and the rear of the pin where the hammer strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goshimu Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Trigger will improve significantly with a bit of use, enjoy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedahlenius85 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Trigger will improve significantly with a bit of use, enjoy!!Yeah, I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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