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We just bought a brand new Stock II and the slide does not fit flush with the back of the rail, it hangs over the back a bit. We have a lot of cheaper guns that fit perfectly there and are a bit disappointed that the money these things cost that the fit is so off.

2nd is the markings on the rear right side of the slide just below and behind the rear sight. I have searched the web all morning trying to find an explanation or closer photo of the same markings on other guns and can't find anything. A few that I can see it looks like something recognizable. On ours it is like somebody took a tiny punch and obliterated whatever it was supposed to be. I feel almost like it is a way of denoting a "second". Maybe that is a quality mark and the seconds (like this one with the slide that does not appear to fit right) get the mark defaced.

The Stock II on the slide is also in a bold all caps engraving, I assume it is a newer model style? It has FT-IT 2016 above the right grip.

Anyone know what the deal is here? What the mark is and if the poor fit on the slide is "normal" for a gun of this caliber?

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Marks are normal. The engraving is new...

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Yea both of mine have that Mark on the right hand side of the slide on the rear. The newer one has STOCK II designation as well whereas my older one ha Stock engraved in script. 

Also, both of mine have slides that slightly stick out in the rear. I wouldn't worry about it too much. It still shoots just fine.

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We have a couple other EAA Witness 45's and an EA380 from the 70's that have a better slide fit than that. It just seems wrong on a high dollar pistol. Out of some dozen pistols, this is the only one with that hang out on the slide.

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The mark on the side is a proofing mark which has to do with its manufacturing in Italy.

 

Ill check my slide but that not being 100%flush I don't see how it is detrimental at all to be honest.

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16 hours ago, AlaskaC said:

 high dollar pistol

$844 on buds is not a high dollar pistol. That is a lower mid tier price.

The fit and finish could be better. It shoots lights out. I guess it depends on what is important to you.

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12 minutes ago, aceinyerface said:

$844 on buds is not a high dollar pistol. That is a lower mid tier price.

The fit and finish could be better. It shoots lights out. I guess it depends on what is important to you.

Considering that all of our other good shooting, close fitting pistols ran in the $400 range (including 2 Witness 45's) and after postage it is nearly $900, yes, this is a high dollar pistol for us. It is all relative I guess.

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I have 3 Tanfos, two of them have perfect slide to frame fit all flush, and one just like OP's pic.

I use the one that does not fit flush as my match gun, because it has the tightest slide to frame fit.  The other two would wobble if you shake or push the slide when the gun is in battery. Plus, the one that does not fit flush actually shoots my handload much more accurately.

I am no gunsmith so I am curious: does the "flush" fitting really matter?  If so, how?

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I don't know that it matters at all (other than cosmetically). We have never seen this on any gun, even cheap ones, that is why we are asking others opinions/experiences. Just having always had all our other guns fit flush and clean, seeing the slide sticking out the back made me think that maybe the quality control was off on this one and perhaps there are things we don't see on the surface like this that may also be out of tolerance or not first rate internally. It's kind of like having a bunch of Fords and Chevys that are beautiful and run great, then you buy a Cadillac only to find when you shut the door it doesn't close all the way, leaving a gap in the side of the car when you are looking at it, but it locks and the car drives fine. Yeah, it works, but all you can see is the lines that are not right and wonder what else isn't right.

We haven't shot it yet because we wanted to make sure it was not some kind of "second" that we paid full price for. If we don't shoot it we can return it. If people with these guns with this same look are saying theirs are the "normal", then I guess we can deal with it. We will take it out and shoot it Friday and see if it can pass muster. 

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I have to Stock 2s and one is flush and on the other the slide sticks out considerably more than yours does.  Both perform flawlessly.  Cosmetic anomalies are common with these guns.  Shoot and enjoy!

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Out of 4 $1k+ Tanfoglio-s I have on the table and also shoot regularly:
- 1 is noticeably not flush - like your's,
- 2 is ok,
- 1 is perfect - Stock II Xtreme latest gen.
All are accurate trouble-free guns.

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Thanks. I guess we will give it a run and see if it shoots like it should and just live with the wart.

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Thanks. I guess we will give it a run and see if it shoots like it should and just live with the wart.



Well I mean if it is going to make you not like the gun, have it replaced.

Because by all means, it's going to be a great shooter that you should love.

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6 hours ago, AlaskaC said:

Considering that all of our other good shooting, close fitting pistols ran in the $400 range (including 2 Witness 45's) and after postage it is nearly $900, yes, this is a high dollar pistol for us. It is all relative I guess.

High dollar for you, that is your call.

High dollar for the firearms industry, not at all.

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Sorry, I didn't realize I was posting in the $2000 gun club. My mistake. We could have bought any other one at any other price, but this had everything we wanted and was reasonably priced, even though much more than we normally spend. Once a tightwad, always a tightwad. I just can't help comparing a $400 gun to one over twice its price having a poorer fit of parts. I am pretty sure it is going to be a fine shooter from past Tanfo experience, I just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with it before committing completely to it, that's all.

 

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The fit in my stock 2 has been exceptional. It is in 40 though. It has been flawless except for the shooter. 

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1 hour ago, AlaskaC said:

Sorry, I didn't realize I was posting in the $2000 gun club. My mistake. We could have bought any other one at any other price, but this had everything we wanted and was reasonably priced, even though much more than we normally spend. Once a tightwad, always a tightwad. I just can't help comparing a $400 gun to one over twice its price having a poorer fit of parts. I am pretty sure it is going to be a fine shooter from past Tanfo experience, I just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with it before committing completely to it, that's all.

 

Don't Get too sensitive about it. The stock 2 Is a great gun. But in the eyes of competitions, where guys Hahaveve $4,000 race guns,  a tanfo is entry level. I think of it like the corvette of guns, yea it's badass for the money, but if you have 5x the money to spend, you're going to get a Ferrari.

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4 minutes ago, AlaskaC said:

Well, I have 5x the money to spend, but don't feel the need to. Yet.... :P

Well, when you can shoot better than the gun... SVI Or limcat will be happy to take your money for a perfectly fit firearm. I see what your saying about the fit and finish... But for a sub 1k gun, anything can be hit or miss... Anything over 1k is where it has better be perfect... That is just my .02

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I'm sympathetic.  Honestly a $450 cz75b has better consistency for fit and finish than these things do by a long shot.  They also seem to be less likely to have issues like my locking lugs or that chamber problem. 

 

They are just quirky and annoying Italian machines that are a joy to use when they behave. 

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Yeah, I have a little CZ RAMI that is put together perfectly and is a tack driver. The photo is 5 in one on a 1" sticker. My husband is making test loads for me and this one was a clear winner! The only issue it has is it burns oil. If it doesn't get oiled often it will mis-feed.

2016-09-30 5 in 1.jpg

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