twister Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I'm ready to buy a new revolver for a weekly league I shoot in, which would be more accurate stock, a 986, or a 686? Thanks for your help, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I would think a 686 with wadcutters would be your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) We are getting really good accuracy out of our 686s with Bayou Bullets poly coated 138 gr. button nose wadcutters. Edited August 14, 2016 by Toolguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 Toolguy, would you mind sharing the load you're using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 The load we were shooting was given to us to try out. It is 3.9 of WST. It runs about 910 fps. We will try to duplicate that load with some other powder we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I've shot a fair bit of PPC. My choice would be a 6 inch Ruger GP-100 with a Wilson or Wolfe spring kit. My GP-100 will toss virtually any decent load of full cylinder 6 round groups into 2.5 or less from a 25 yard bench. Lead, plated, jacketed, Hi-Tek coating... it seems to make no difference. The spring kit gets me down to about a 7.8 pound DA pull, and a very light SA pull. I have found that the standard adjustable Ruger rear sight will "bounce" on you... but a Bowen Rough Country replacement rear stopped that. I find the Ruger GP-100 to be more accurate with lead, plated, or Bayou than the 686 I used to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 toolguy, thanks for the info. Thanks for all the info, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Another good load to try is 2.6 of WST or 3.1 of 231 behind a Remington 148 gr HBWC or Percision Delta 148 gr HBWC. i have seen stock 4" and 6" 686's shoot 1 1/4 groups at 50 yards out a ransom rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Our stock 686 Competitor (except for a 5-1/2 lb DA trigger) is shooting 1 to 1-1/2" groups at 50 yds. from a ransom rest. Edited August 13, 2016 by Toolguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 21 hours ago, mojo1 said: Another good load to try is 2.6 of WST or 3.1 of 231 behind a Remington 148 gr HBWC or Percision Delta 148 gr HBWC. i have seen stock 4" and 6" 686's shoot 1 1/4 groups at 50 yards out a ransom rest. I haven't tried the Remington 148's but on the Precision Deltas I had much better luck with the older sticky wax lubed ones, not the dry match lube. The Zero 148's have a similar sticky wax lube and shoot very well also. With the waxy lube I never had to much trouble with barrel build up but the cylinder had to be brushed out during the match. I got tired of lead and started using the Zero 125 jhp's with 5.5 gr of 231, clean and accurate. I need to try the 138 Bayous that Warrens using, always great to find a cheaper, clean and accurate solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AusPPC Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The 686 is quite popular for PPC in Australia, I had good results from mine even in almost stock form. The 148g HBWC isn't used much, the 100g SWC is far more popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) AusPPC, what load are you using? I don't even know if I can find a 100gr. Sec. Thanks for the reply, Dave. Edited August 16, 2016 by twister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 37 minutes ago, twister said: AusPPC, what load are you using? I don't even know if I can find a 100gr. Sec. Thanks for the reply, Dave. https://www.ibejiheads.com/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=27&osCsid=403c22d86c6db45a4bcf9f1839d35552 Ibejiheads sells a 100 grain swc, I enjoy using them for steel challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 alecmc, are you getting good accuracy out of them? If so, what's your load? Thanks, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AusPPC Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 hour ago, twister said: AusPPC, what load are you using? I don't even know if I can find a 100gr. Sec. Thanks for the reply, Dave. 2.0 grains of Trailboss with the bullet seated below the case mouth by 3mm. Very soft shooting (about 70 power factor), and holds x-ring at 50 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 3 hours ago, twister said: alecmc, are you getting good accuracy out of them? If so, what's your load? Thanks, Dave. 3.8 WST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Alec mc, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldchar Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Shooting a 586 no dash, 3.1 gr 231, Federal match primers for 50 yards for 1500. Using Precison 158 swaged swc. I don't think the rifling is fast enough for hbwc at 50 unlike my Douglas barreled K frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian B Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I've shot a fair bit of PPC. My choice would be a 6 inch Ruger GP-100 with a Wilson or Wolfe spring kit. My GP-100 will toss virtually any decent load of full cylinder 6 round groups into 2.5 or less from a 25 yard bench. Lead, plated, jacketed, Hi-Tek coating... it seems to make no difference. The spring kit gets me down to about a 7.8 pound DA pull, and a very light SA pull. I have found that the standard adjustable Ruger rear sight will "bounce" on you... but a Bowen Rough Country replacement rear stopped that. I find the Ruger GP-100 to be more accurate with lead, plated, or Bayou than the 686 I used to shoot.Regarding sights, almost all our PPC league uses Aristocrat sights. Holdover is not necessary at 25 and 50 yards with a click of the knob on the side of the sight. Extremely accurate. Good luck.http://www.aristocratproducts.com/page1.htmlBrian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian B Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Regarding sights, almost all our PPC league uses Aristocrat sights. Holdover is not necessary at 25 and 50 yards with a click of the knob on the side of the sight. Extremely accurate. Good luck.http://www.aristocratproducts.com/page1.htmlBrian BBrian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If you just wanna jump to a purpose built gun, PPC bargain guns in the Smith or Ruger persuasion can be found by the dozen on gunbroker for $400-1200. I shoot a Clark Customs Grandmaster built on an old Security-Six. It's slick shit. Otherwise, it is my humble opinion that the 6" S&W Model 14 Target Masterpiece is the finest factory target revolver ever made. When I start down the road to becoming Distinguished in NRA-AP Production, I plan on taking out my 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelie66 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 +1 on the model 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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