anbrumm Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I had a question regarding dry fire practice. I did some searching, but didn't see much for my question. Anyways, when practicing dry firing do you just pull off the first shot and then focus on getting a good sight picture after that? I'm looking into practicing dry fire more as I want to start getting into USPSA. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wav3rhythm Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Buy this book: http://www.amazon.com/Dry-Fire-Training-Practical-Pistol-Shooter/dp/1497319633 I strongly recommend reading and going through the drills for 20-30 minutes a day. I also recommend finding good shooters who are local to you and pepper them with questions and practice together. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anbrumm Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ordered the book. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwansikcjswo Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 No. If you prioritize pulling the trigger rather than seeing the sight, it's a bad practice IMO. If you get better, your sight is first then the body reacts to your vision. Because that's what you are going to do when you shoot. See first then pull. Don't pull then see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anbrumm Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 No. If you prioritize pulling the trigger rather than seeing the sight, it's a bad practice IMO. If you get better, your sight is first then the body reacts to your vision. Because that's what you are going to do when you shoot. See first then pull. Don't pull then see. I realize my question may have been worded wrong. I meant it in terms of not racking the slide all the time. So you get your sight picture, and pull the trigger on the first time. Any following targets just get a good sight picture and "fake" pull the trigger? Otherwise on a Glock style gun the trigger doesn't reset after each pull. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Yes, you will be pulling a dead trigger after the first "shot". The value of dry fire isn't in having realistic trigger feel. Edited June 8, 2016 by GunBugBit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 No. If you prioritize pulling the trigger rather than seeing the sight, it's a bad practice IMO. If you get better, your sight is first then the body reacts to your vision. Because that's what you are going to do when you shoot. See first then pull. Don't pull then see. I realize my question may have been worded wrong. I meant it in terms of not racking the slide all the time. So you get your sight picture, and pull the trigger on the first time. Any following targets just get a good sight picture and "fake" pull the trigger? Otherwise on a Glock style gun the trigger doesn't reset after each pull.Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Put a thin piece of paper or cardboard or something in the ejection port of your Glock to just barely lock it out of battery. You should be able to pull your trigger repeatedly even though the striker isn't cocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanduneCC Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Dry firing is more about learning to acquire targets/indexing, drawing, reloading. Not so much on the trigger press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Dry firing is more about learning to acquire targets/indexing, drawing, reloading. Not so much on the trigger press. Depends on what you are working on. You can definitely work on trigger press via dry firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock26Toter Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 yeah, I'm with the fake trigger pull crowd here. Click on the first one, then pull the trigger with the same force it took you to make it click the first time with good sight pictures. If all is working well you should be able to do that without the sight moving as you "break" each shot. I dry fire at least 6 shots per draw on scaled targets. The goal is not realistic trigger pull, it's trigger finger movement on sight picture without moving the gun(sights). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anbrumm Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for all the replies. That is kind of what I figured, but I wanted to make sure. I didn't see any reason to rack the slide everytime, but I know sometimes I work on my trigger press. When I do that I rack the slide every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldP Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Dry firing is more about learning to acquire targets/indexing, drawing, reloading. Not so much on the trigger pres (Not so much on the trigger press). This is what dry firing is all about developing a smooth consistent trigger pull. If you cannot pull the trigger while not disturbing the sight picture then all the target acquisition, drawing, and reloading will be for not. For dry fire practice place a quarter, nickel, or dime the choice of coin is yours on top of the gun right behind the front sight. Pull the trigger without making the coin fall of the gun. When you can achieve that with consistency then add this which would be practice, acquire targets/indexing, drawing. Dry fire is all about trigger pull practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickbfishn Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Thanks for the input. I think I may order that book as well, unless someone has one to lend or sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDMFR Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Dry fire is all about trigger pull practiceTrigger pull is certainly one of the things you can work on in dry fire, but I wouldn't say dry fire is all about trigger control. There's a lot of stuff you can work on by pulling a dead trigger, or by not pulling the trigger at all. Edited June 13, 2016 by FTDMFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldP Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I agree to disagree, my thought is if you are unsuccessful at trigger control ( smooth & keeping sights on target) all the speed of the draw, target acquisition is for not if you can't produce a smooth trigger pull. Just my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDMFR Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) I agree to disagree, my thought is if you are unsuccessful at trigger control ( smooth & keeping sights on target) all the speed of the draw, target acquisition is for not if you can't produce a smooth trigger pull. Just my take on it. I do agree with this. I think trigger control trumps pretty much everything. I'm just saying that after a certain level, when your trigger control and shot calling get pretty good, then you can start working on other things independently of trigger control. Edited June 13, 2016 by FTDMFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) As a new guy; if I paid so much attention to trigger control as to never let them wiggle then I'd still be slower than old people.... It's a mix, I want to see my sights with each pull stay damn steady but I've gotta push myself on a bill drill to get faster while maintaining acceptable sight stability. Edited June 13, 2016 by SCTaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 No. If you prioritize pulling the trigger rather than seeing the sight, it's a bad practice IMO. If you get better, your sight is first then the body reacts to your vision. Because that's what you are going to do when you shoot. See first then pull. Don't pull then see. I realize my question may have been worded wrong. I meant it in terms of not racking the slide all the time. So you get your sight picture, and pull the trigger on the first time. Any following targets just get a good sight picture and "fake" pull the trigger? Otherwise on a Glock style gun the trigger doesn't reset after each pull. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk On a Glock, put a rubber band or small piece of something in the ejection port to hold the slide out of battery and keep a live trigger.Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 No. If you prioritize pulling the trigger rather than seeing the sight, it's a bad practice IMO. If you get better, your sight is first then the body reacts to your vision. Because that's what you are going to do when you shoot. See first then pull. Don't pull then see. I realize my question may have been worded wrong. I meant it in terms of not racking the slide all the time. So you get your sight picture, and pull the trigger on the first time. Any following targets just get a good sight picture and "fake" pull the trigger? Otherwise on a Glock style gun the trigger doesn't reset after each pull.Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Put a thin piece of paper or cardboard or something in the ejection port of your Glock to just barely lock it out of battery. You should be able to pull your trigger repeatedly even though the striker isn't cocked.Should have kept scrolling!Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I agree to disagree, my thought is if you are unsuccessful at trigger control ( smooth & keeping sights on target) all the speed of the draw, target acquisition is for not if you can't produce a smooth trigger pull. Just my take on it. that is true, but it doesn't seem to me it takes very long to learn trigger control, and then there's a whole bunch of other stuff you can do in dryfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanduneCC Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 that is true, but it doesn't seem to me it takes very long to learn trigger control, and then there's a whole bunch of other stuff you can do in dryfire. Yupper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Dryfire works everything. Or should, if one is doing it right. Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 No. If you prioritize pulling the trigger rather than seeing the sight, it's a bad practice IMO. If you get better, your sight is first then the body reacts to your vision. Because that's what you are going to do when you shoot. See first then pull. Don't pull then see. I realize my question may have been worded wrong. I meant it in terms of not racking the slide all the time. So you get your sight picture, and pull the trigger on the first time. Any following targets just get a good sight picture and "fake" pull the trigger? Otherwise on a Glock style gun the trigger doesn't reset after each pull.Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Put a thin piece of paper or cardboard or something in the ejection port of your Glock to just barely lock it out of battery. You should be able to pull your trigger repeatedly even though the striker isn't cocked.Should have kept scrolling!Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk Just affirms that my advice was good. My daughter is learning to shoot a Glock and I keep a tag from a piece of clothing in my gun safe and tear off a small piece as needed. Drop that on top of the barrel through the ejection port with the gun slightly out of battery and the trigger functions and the paper does not interfere with the sight picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlpressley Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 For those of you who shoot a DA/SA gun, what is your method in dry fire? DA each time, DA first and nothing on the subsequent shots etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 For those of you who shoot a DA/SA gun, what is your method in dry fire? DA each time, DA first and nothing on the subsequent shots etc? I alternate between "real" DA pull and just having the gun on 1/2 cock and wiggling the trigger. Many drills the trigger isn't manipulated at all as they work on sight alignment and building a sight centric mentality (if that's even a term!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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