jrswanson1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 What is the reason people don't use the FN anymore? From looking around here on this forum, they're more maintenance intensive than a Benelli. And if you weld the lifter, it throws the timing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightops Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Beretta 1301 comp model for off the shelf+tube Controls are already oversized, loading and ejection ports already opened up, the lifter isn't pinchy, a fiber front bead, and it has nice aggressive checkering on the stock. With the +7 extension on for a 12 round tube, it fits perfectly in the Safariland 3-gun bag with the shotgun pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofagator Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So for those of you saying the Beretta 1301 Comp, do you think its twice at good as the Stoeger M3K, or do you just have no experience with the brand? I really would like the Beretta or Benelli, but my wallet would sure like a $550 M3K. I don't know that I'll ever shoot a multi-gun match, but I would like a sporting shotgun to maybe dip my toes in the sport. I just don't know if I will ever realize the difference spending over a grand on the 1301. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The Benelli M2 3Gun Edition is $2500 retail. Calipornia price for a Stoeger M3K is $700. At that price difference the Benelli better be better than the Stoeger. That logic is severely flawed. Just because something is more expensive, does not necessarily make it better. Actually generally it does. The old adage you get what you pay for rings true 90% of the time. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRobinson Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So for those of you saying the Beretta 1301 Comp, do you think its twice at good as the Stoeger M3K, or do you just have no experience with the brand? I really would like the Beretta or Benelli, but my wallet would sure like a $550 M3K. I don't know that I'll ever shoot a multi-gun match, but I would like a sporting shotgun to maybe dip my toes in the sport. I just don't know if I will ever realize the difference spending over a grand on the 1301.You sound like me. I have been blasting clay pigeons in the back yard with my old Winchester pump but wanted to try out a semi. I bought a M3K and couldn't be happier at this point. Really fast and after about 500 rounds of Walmart Federal I have had zero malfunctions. I'm trying to coble together a shell caddie to try loading deuces. Maybe then I'll try taking it to a match. It's a lot of fun for the money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So for those of you saying the Beretta 1301 Comp, do you think its twice at good as the Stoeger M3K, or do you just have no experience with the brand? I really would like the Beretta or Benelli, but my wallet would sure like a $550 M3K. I don't know that I'll ever shoot a multi-gun match, but I would like a sporting shotgun to maybe dip my toes in the sport. I just don't know if I will ever realize the difference spending over a grand on the 1301. I'm not sure how you measure if a gun is two times better than another, but if you gave me one I would sell it and put the money towards something made in Italy the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 If someone gave me a 1301, I'd trade it with you for 2 M3000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m39nut Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 With the exception of the VersaMax because it is made in America, do any of these others have to have mods to comply to 922R when you put on the mag tube extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 With the exception of the VersaMax because it is made in America, do any of these others have to have mods to comply to 922R when you put on the mag tube extension? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 'nother vote for the M3K. I opened the loading port a bit and cleaned up the shell catch, thats it. It'll load quads all day without issue. I like the Predator gun, seems to be on the M3K chassis with the 930 gas system and a pretty good looking loading port already. But can you get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m39nut Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) With the exception of the VersaMax because it is made in America, do any of these others have to have mods to comply to 922R when you put on the mag tube extension? Yes. What parts would you replace to make it compliant? I know which I replace on an AK but am unfamiliar with various shotguns. Thanks! Edited May 27, 2016 by m39nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 If someone gave me a stoeger 3000, I would probably keep it in my safe. The same place my m2 has been since I got my 1301. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightops Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So for those of you saying the Beretta 1301 Comp, do you think its twice at good as the Stoeger M3K, or do you just have no experience with the brand? I really would like the Beretta or Benelli, but my wallet would sure like a $550 M3K. I don't know that I'll ever shoot a multi-gun match, but I would like a sporting shotgun to maybe dip my toes in the sport. I just don't know if I will ever realize the difference spending over a grand on the 1301. Is the Beretta dollar for dollar better? That is what you will have to decide. What made the decision for me was a lot of little things that added up. The Beretta has a mid bead on the rib in addition to the fiber front, so you don't have to get some kind of rear sight milled into your rib for long slug. The stock checkering is pretty aggressive and super grippy. The loading port on the Beretta is usable as is, and no need to replace/extend the lifter. I also liked the position and size of the Beretta safety better. In my opinion, the 1301 comp is a 3 gun shotgun that just needs a tube for capacity and is ready to go. The m3k is a good start, but still needs work, time, and a few parts to really be ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) This review of the Beretta... does not have a mid bead... this particular one still needs tweaking for load 2/4. Needed extended chokes. What part of this video is not up to date? The m3k is a good start, but still needs work, time, and a few parts to really be ready to go. In your opinion what other parts other than the tube does the M3K need? Edited May 27, 2016 by Religious Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I like the Predator gun, seems to be on the M3K chassis with the 930 gas system and a pretty good looking loading port already. But can you get them? Very close to a M3000 receiver, closer to a 1301 gas system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofagator Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 How much is the Predator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 If someone gave me a 1301, I'd trade it with you for 2 M3000s. Oh yeah? Well I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Your move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 This review of the Beretta... does not have a mid bead... this particular one still needs tweaking for load 2/4. Needed extended chokes. What part of this video is not up to date? It does have a mid bead. No guns NEED extended chokes, but they are a nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 All of my shotguns have extended chokes. M3K comes with extended chokes. If I get the Beretta I would need to get extended chokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul49 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 This review of the Beretta... does not have a mid bead... this particular one still needs tweaking for load 2/4. Needed extended chokes. What part of this video is not up to date? The m3k is a good start, but still needs work, time, and a few parts to really be ready to go. In your opinion what other parts other than the tube does the M3K need? My 24" Beretta 1301 bought in April came with a midbead. If you read the mega thread on the 1301, you'll see multiple recommendations to Loctite the midbead in place since it can come loose and fall out. Maybe the guy in the video already lost his midbead before making the video. The midbead lines up nicely with the front fiberoptic just like a front and rear rifle sight set up. If you read the M3K mega thread you'll see it often needs other internal refinements to be fully reliable. Many do that work themselves, others choose to have a reputable gun smith do it, like MOA Precision. That work will account for some of the price difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 He said it needs "parts". What parts? The mods on the Stoeger thread seem to be just tweaks that you would do to any shotgun. I have a Versa Max, Benelli M2, 1100's and an 870. I've done similar tweaks to all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfast Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Maybe the "parts" needed are the Benelli extractor and spring. $23 in parts at Midway. $28 or $29 with shipping and NRA roundup. A 3/32" punch is needed to push a pin out. That's all I've done to my M3K other than a longer tube. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowdy1111 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Another Vote for 1301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 He said it needs "parts". What parts? The mods on the Stoeger thread seem to be just tweaks that you would do to any shotgun. I have a Versa Max, Benelli M2, 1100's and an 870. I've done similar tweaks to all of them. Good question. I haven't a clue what parts my 1301 needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Maybe the "parts" needed are the Benelli extractor and spring. $23 in parts at Midway. $28 or $29 with shipping and NRA roundup. A 3/32" punch is needed to push a pin out. That's all I've done to my M3K other than a longer tube. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You changed it out because it wasn't reliable otherwise? Or just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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