9x45 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Anybody know where to get one of these? I called Dillon and they said they only carry the new style now... new style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 You should be able to use the new style and just not use the fail-safe rod through-hole feature. My machine started as a 550, but I upgraded to the fail-safe rod when it came out and like the added assurance that the powder bar returns. Might be worth considering adding the fail-safe rod retro-fit kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Thanks, but I don't like the fail safe cranky clunky action. Hoping Dillon will reply.... They sent me a new style one, but I would like like the old school one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 How are your home fab skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Grump, I am a partner in a fabrication/machine shop. I could easily reverse engineer the product and laser cut it. That's not what my question is. It takes several hours to even get the digital data base, and make a prototype, all at the expense of making product for profit, which we would be losing screwing around with this one off item. I'm not someone who spends 60 hours with a file and dremel... if that's what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) We spent over 800 hours on this similar solar tracker project and still lost money on the prototype contract. The old saying is still true, not all money is good money. I have to pay my employees by the hour, plus benefits, plus cost of the 10,000 sq ft shop operation. Somewhere along the line, my partners and I have to make a profit. Between design, programming, fabrication, testing,we lost a bunch of $$$. It's always cheaper, faster and easier to buy the original part. The photo is not our own, but a similar project. And, no, this one didn't work either.... Edited April 12, 2016 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Not if the original part is no longer made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Bamboo, I retrofitted my Square Deal, and it runs quite and smooth, no clunks and clanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Not if the original part is no longer made. My shop can reproduce any part on the planet ever made, even the original Luger in .45acp, but not for a profit, but for a huge loss. I'll never pay off the machines in my lifetime, let alone anything else in the shop.... And this is just a little nothing stamped part. If it's still available, it's far easier to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Ok, so, does anyone have a source for this part? Thanks. Hopefully Dillon will reply. I am sure they are busier with more important questions, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboone Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Take a look at this retrograde: http://www.ericwesselman.com/DillonPowderMeasure/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Grump, I am a partner in a fabrication/machine shop. I could easily reverse engineer the product and laser cut it. That's not what my question is. It takes several hours to even get the digital data base, and make a prototype, all at the expense of making product for profit, which we would be losing screwing around with this one off item. I'm not someone who spends 60 hours with a file and dremel... if that's what you mean. Stand-up band-saw and a polisher would be faster. I think 2 hours if you paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 This is the very first version of the bellcrank, introduced in May, 1985, and discontinued by 1988. No originals are available. Are you trying to maintain the original initial design, or make the powder measure function? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Grump, I am a partner in a fabrication/machine shop. I could easily reverse engineer the product and laser cut it. That's not what my question is. It takes several hours to even get the digital data base, and make a prototype, all at the expense of making product for profit, which we would be losing screwing around with this one off item. I'm not someone who spends 60 hours with a file and dremel... if that's what you mean. Stand-up band-saw and a polisher would be faster. I think 2 hours if you paint. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Discontinued since 88, well I know how old the press is then. I'll just digitize the part and have one of the new kids layout it out and make a couple for practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Or, you could just use your old one as a template and cut the fail-safe rod through-hole lobe off the "new" one you have in the picture. Another alternative is just don't use the fail-safe rod and it will function just like your old one. The only difference between the old one and the "new" one in your picture is the extra material on the bell crank for a through hole for the fail-safe rod. It isn't like the new-new current ones that don't use the spring return. I'll try to remember to look through my old parts box and if I still have the old bell crank it is yours. Edited April 12, 2016 by Bamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 For 25 bucks, Dillon sells an upgrade that will upgrade any style Powder Measure to the newest style Powder Measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 thanks Bamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I have some of these. There are actually two different kinds... PM me your cell or email address if you still need them. I'll send you pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tires2burn Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I got tired of the clunk too. This was my fix. A bolt , 5" of surgical tubing and a half piece of chain link with some barbs chiseled into it to hold the rubber. Works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyPotty Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I know this is a little old, but all you have to do is cut it in half. Takes a couple of minutes, I've done a few of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 12/31/2017 at 9:53 AM, ScottyPotty said: I know this is a little old, but all you have to do is cut it in half. Takes a couple of minutes, I've done a few of them. I know this thread is a little old... But... Does anyone know what Dillon part number this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 The white squares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 6 hours ago, GrumpyOne said: The white squares? The Bellcrank cubes (white squares) are still available. Asking about the old style bellcrank... Wondering what the Dillon part number is and if Dillon still sells them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 They do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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