Moltke Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 My main drag with cowboy action shooting events is there isn't enough shooting! It's all super close range! Or worse yet, you have to dress up like Yosemite Sam.... But other than that its pretty fun! So imagine for a moment if there was more shooting, more distance, and... you could wear normal clothes! That's what I'm talking about creating here with a 3 Gun Cowboy Division. My vision is to have a single division with guns, gear, and calibers pretty wide open so can people will show up with whatever cowboy (1895 or earlier) stuff they want and shoot a 3 Gun match, scored separately. Single action revolvers any caliber but no comps or optics Double barrel, lever action, or pump action shotguns any gauge but no comps or optics Lever action rifles of any pistol caliber but no comps or optics Lever action rifles of any rifle caliber with one optic (magnified or not) Modern belt, holsters, slings, and speedloaders for any/every gun Essentially this would be a high round count, shoot and move + long range version of SASS without the numerous and overbearing requirements to keep guns "period correct". That's right, NOT trying to keep these guns period correct folks! Install modern sights, have a triggerjob done, use a modern scope and mount for the rifle, get a kydex holster for that six shooter, and use speedloaders for everything. Because of the low capacity and slow reload times for these guns, the scoring requirements would essentially the same as Heavy Metal division Paper, 1rd anywhere (pistol or rifle) Bay Steel, must fall to score Clays, need 1 BB to score LR Steel, hits called by RO To keep it simple, shooters would engage the same course of fire that normal 3 gunners are shooting except with modernized cowboy guns. The same penalties would apply and the same safety rules too - such as if you have to ditch a gun then safety on or empty. Or if your gun doesn't have a safety then it needs to be dumped empty. Another difference would be that Cowboy would be a PCC division because of the prevalence of pistol caliber lever guns. Choose one or both on any given course of fire, but the scoring remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinT Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 The local matches in TX shoot to 500 yds and already finish about 5PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Shoot your cowboy guns in limited. If eventually enough others joined you you could make a case for a new division. Otherwise you would just get to have fun shooting the guns you want to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) WooHoo! Another division!!! The above was facetious for sure...NO NEW DIVISIONS! Edited April 1, 2016 by P.E. Kelley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I like the idea of WWII division better, and it eliminates the really slow reload time of cowboy guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmnielsen Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Interesting idea, but like someone else said why not just shoot in limited with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Cowboy guns are, or can be fun, but a SSA revo is ridiculously slow to load unless you change out cylinders. If that was the rule, then MAYBE. A WWII Division, Pump SG, M1, BAR, Springfield, Johnson, Enfield. 1911 or Revo for the Allies, Mauser, Walther or Luger, Pump SG, Caranco, period Beretta HG, Ariska and Nambu for the Axis. Could be a fun match. might be better as a standalone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightops Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Would just take way too long. Painfully long reloads on the clock, extra guns to make ready and ULSC since they usually use 2 revolvers, the gear just can't keep up with big 3 gun stages. Besides, the cowboy guys would never let a 3 gunner show up and shoot modern gear at one of their matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langenator Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Cowboy guns are, or can be fun, but a SSA revo is ridiculously slow to load unless you change out cylinders. If that was the rule, then MAYBE. A WWII Division, Pump SG, M1, BAR, Springfield, Johnson, Enfield. 1911 or Revo for the Allies, Mauser, Walther or Luger, Pump SG, Caranco, period Beretta HG, Ariska and Nambu for the Axis. Could be a fun match. might be better as a standalone Random question: can any of the top break Smiths use speedloaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I have a Webley MK VI that takes 45acp in full moon clips. But not as quick as a Government Model still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 we already do shoot updated cowboy guns... we're 100 years in the future, revolvers have evolved into auto loaders, since they hold more and are easier to reload. Lever guns became the first multi-shot rifle. we replaced the tube mags with stick mags, we replaced black powder powders with smokeless. shotguns are pretty much the same as they were, but less cool looking. I think you should just wear the silly outfits (not that NASCAR shirts are much better) of a cowboy but run an open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrswanson1 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 There's already a Cowboy 3-gun competition. And ain't no way I'm losing that much 44-40 brass to the grass and gravel gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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