librarian45 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 So I'm going to start shooting CO and am debating between a glock and (now that the weight limits are raised) a CZ shadow. I carry a glock 19 w. a RMR daily and I compete in limited with a g35. Am I giving up anything by staying glock or is the weight/ergo of the shadow enough to validate using it? I have a shadow and getting the slide milled seems like heresy, but those springer type mounts are just too high. If I do go glock I've got a g17 and g35 who are both candidates. I assume the longer sight radius is irrelevant so I should go w/ the 17? Lastly, am i better of sending it out to get milled or should I just buy a MOS gun? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Chevy or Ford? All kidding aside, no one can give you the answer. I am a CZ guy, I have two slides being milled right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron410 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 So, I've spent some time in the same boat you're in currently. I picked up a gen 4 glock 34 when I started shooting USPSA because I deployed with glocks regularly and I wanted to stay proficient with the platform. Since then, I've caught my eyes wandering every once in a while towards a CZ or a Tanfoglio or some other new hotness. I keep going back to the glock though. For me, it's about time invested and consistency with platforms across work and play. I recently picked up a Glock 34 MOS and I shot it in my first match this last weekend and I was utterly blown away. I shot production on the first day and I came back the second and shot Carry optics with my MOS set up exactly the same (minus the red dot, of course) and I demolished some of my times that I had put up with a rig that I am VERY familiar with. I was shocked. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I feel like the consistency across divisions outweighs the practical benefits of the heavier CZ as nice as it would be to have one of my own. Also, when I'm shooting production, I have a backup pistol if something were to go catastrophically wrong with my primary production rig. Of course, this is my own opinion and thought process and I'm sure there's plenty to find at fault with it. Good luck with your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I'd worry more about finding an optic that will stand up to the rigors of the division. With your experience competing with and carrying Glocks you should probably stick with the Glock. Of course, if you have the itch for a different platform go ahead and scratch it. With the popularity of the CZs currently you won't have a problem getting most of your money back if you decide you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Pride of Ownership. When we had the weight limit in CO I was shooting a P-09, now I am back to my Shadow. I know I am an oddball, but I did not care much about my P-09, I have pride of ownership in my Shadow. P-09 (plastic) is a tool, Shadow is a gun to admire, the feel in your hand etc... Yep, I'm weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFO Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I waited until they changed the weight limit before I started my build. I wanted a metal gun to compete in CO. I'm currently waiting on Cajun Gun Works to finish my SP01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric4069 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 So I'm going to start shooting CO and am debating between a glock and (now that the weight limits are raised) a CZ shadow. the one that YOU like best. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) I'll chime in from the Glock side . I've shot two CO matches so far. The first on I shot with my production G17 with the Burris FF3 mounted in the dovetail mount. For my second match I shot it with a 17 MOS. The difference is height of the optic had zero impact for me. Given that you shoot Glocks now I would stick with that. I use the G17 for production, Carry Optics and an Open Glock I use for steel challenge. Edited March 8, 2016 by ZackJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I would say if you carry a g19 with optic and already shoot a g35 in limited then a glock model in CO would be the natural choice. And that's coming from a CZ convert.. Like you'll hear from most people, the gun won't make the shooter. If you like shooting a glock and are confident with it that will likely be the best way to go, same with CZ or Tanfo. Now if you were currently shooting a hi-point then I would probably say yea a new gun will make a BIG difference! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I put a JPoint with the JPoint adaptor on my G34 and it seems to me to point pretty close without milling the slide. It has a notch in the JPoint that the FS sits in and the POI is about 8" high and of course where the Dot is. Might give you some frame of reference on how it sits. Not as good a an MOS, but cheaper than buying a new blaster or milling the slide. Another note you don't have to fit a box, can increase the weight so you can add some heavy base pads to the mags and get the weight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Shooting that G19 would get you a ton of practice with your carry gun. Just a thought. I do dig the CZ's though. So, as an aside----what is THE CZ to shoot CO with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 SP-01 Shadow .... Just like for Production ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yibomb Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I started shooting CO three matches ago. I think you cant go wrong with anything with a slide cut from factory. But you have a Glock 19 with RMR so just use that and see if you like shooting with only a few shooters in CO. I usually see 1-3 CO shooters. Yesterday I was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acpie360 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Lastly, am i better of sending it out to get milled or should I just buy a MOS gun? I chose to buy an aftermarket Glock slide and sent it for a milling job. My local club allows shooting multiple guns on the classifier stage. I can shoot Prod or CO for that day and shoot both Prod and CO for a classifier by simply swapping the top. A completed Glock slide top (w/o barrel and guide rod) costs about $300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEuropa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 But you have a Glock 19 with RMR so just use that and see if you like shooting with only a few shooters in CO. I usually see 1-3 CO shooters. Yesterday I was the only one. This is the only thing that I'm not looking forward to when I make the switch. Production is really popular in my area so it's great to be able to compare myself to 15-25 shooters each match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zhunter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 But you have a Glock 19 with RMR so just use that and see if you like shooting with only a few shooters in CO. I usually see 1-3 CO shooters. Yesterday I was the only one. This is the only thing that I'm not looking forward to when I make the switch. Production is really popular in my area so it's great to be able to compare myself to 15-25 shooters each match. I think you will find you can still compare your scores, I doubt you will make a dramatic jump with the dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Well there were 6 in CO at the Area II, out of 400 plus shooters. TGO shot CO to promote it, but of course it was a Springfield... I don't get the big deal about the Glock MOS anyway, it's hardly lower than my Trijicon Red dots on a standard gun with adapter plate. Edited March 10, 2016 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEuropa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I think you will find you can still compare your scores, I doubt you will make a dramatic jump with the dot. Oh, I know. It'll just require...work...to compare scores instead of simply comparing to production shooters by using Practiscore's drop down menus. :-) Edited March 10, 2016 by AEuropa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I think you will find you can still compare your scores, I doubt you will make a dramatic jump with the dot.Oh, I know. It'll just require...work...to compare scores instead of simply comparing to production shooters by using Practiscore's drop down menus. :-) At the top of the page you can click on the "old style" and you will see combined results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 While I have the game guns for uspsa, at least at local idpa matches I try to use what I carry to get more familiar with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 if i carried a glock, I would want to compete with a glock. nils and that other dude showed that a glock is not a competitive disadvantage. otoh, if I carried a cz (which I do), I would want to compete with a cz........ except that SS is mo betta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML1911 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 If you are already using the glock platform, I would stay with glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Hi Point. You can prove to the world that it's about skill not equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Yup, Endorsed by Ben Stoeger and Franck Proctor, made by Ass Salient Arms, $,4500 on reserve.. But you have to wear skate board shoes, 1:25 in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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