Chills1994 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I noticed on the regular Graf's website that Armscor has 55 grainers for sale too. It looks like they are running 10 cents each retail. One club I am a member of gets wholesale pricing at Graf's. My gun club president also believes that the Montana Gold 230 grain .45 ACP bullets were the exact same as the Armscor. Anyone here ever try the Armscor 55 grainers for .223 (.224)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 Ive never bought armscor stuff but any factory loads Ive ever seen were Not accurate at all. Ymmv. 10 cents each is not really a good deal for me for hoser ammo. Thanks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 That's 10 cents retail. For me it would be wholesale. It used to be all the club members could see dealer pricing on the graf's website. Now it is just the single solitary club contact. I still have plenty of the 55 grainers from Montana Gold. Some outfit just lately was selling factory seconds of what looked like 77 grain SMK's for $70 to $80 per 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 I just pulled the trigger on the wolf 55gr. 5.825 cents each including delivery. I hope they are decent. Thank you Rdinga & everyone! Who knows, maybe they are great? hahaha. As long as they will hold a couple of moa to 200 or so, that will work for me. It will be a while before I can post a review but I will. Even if I had them here in my hands, all the local ranges are closed due to the "blizzard" we had. Our part of the world is not equipped to handle that little bit of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 This should put my reloads, not counting the brass(most of which I've gotten for the labor of picking it up) at a little less than 16 cents each! Now who wouldn't want to be able to shoot .223 for $16/100? This should motivate me to practice. The thought of 50 cents every time I pulled the trigger was a little daunting to me when that was the best online deal for hoser ammo. Of course the cost is back down to 33 cents or so now but still, this is half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Bullets should be here saturday. I will try to find time to do a little comparison soon as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredlegentil Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 For plinking and under 200 yards, Wolf 55gr is an awesome deal for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoz Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Another vote for Monmouth Reloading. They consistently have the best price on all quantities of both 55gr and .30 caliber 150gr FMJBT projectiles. Their shipping is also very reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 One thing to consider is that many consider the Hornady SP to actually be more consistent/accurate than the FMJ. This. I quit loading FMJ when I tried this. My groups got a lot smaller. The good thing is that they are usually the same price, sometimes cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Box arrived a few minutes ago. Well packed. Disclaimer...I am not a machinist or engineer but these are the numbers I got with scale & dial calipers. Weighed & measured 6 bullets. Weight from 54.6 to 54.8gr. Length only varied 3 thou from .739 to .742. The shortest were not the lightest weight. The diameter so consistent that I would say they measure .2235 give or take nothing. Oh & non magnetic. I understand cheapest isnt best but hopefully they will work ok. So far I am pleased. 4000 Delivered for 5.81 cents each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoz Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 That's a great price. I'm anxious to see a review once all of your snow melts. Around here they cancel school and businesses don't open if there's even a chance of snow in the forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Mark, The jacket consistency will be the final indicator of accuracy. I've purchased bullets that were more consistent in both weight and diameter than Hornady 55 FMJ's, yet, groups were consistently larger. Great short range bullets, just not as accurate at distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Figured all the visual stuff didnt really matter much but it was only part I could evaluate today. Just thought if someone was thinking of buying them maybe they would appreciate my observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Looking forward to your live fire review of these bullets. If your reviews are positive I may get some to try, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The first box of the Wolf 223 bullets I reloaded from were short about 6 bullets. There were only 994 bullets in a 1000 count box. I hope that this isn't a pattern for Wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoz Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bulk packages of bullets are often packed by weight rather than actually being counted so ending up with exactly 1000 bullets may not be the norm. Some places will throw in a few extras to compensate for shortages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Some name brand hoser bullets are on sale for about $.07 ea: Remington: $148.99+s/h for 2K http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601173642/remington-bullets-22-caliber-224-diameter-55-grain-full-metal-jacket Hornady: $420+s/h for 6K http://www.brownells.com/reloading/bullets/rifle-bullets/22-cal-224-55gr-fmj-bt-cannelure-6-000-case-sku100200066-55232-111802.aspx Bought some of the Remingtons to see if they are more accurate than the Hornady 55's FMJBT's I already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Good luck with those Remingtons. Last ones I bought varied quite a bit in weight (as in 3 grains either way)and length. I got to investigating when I couldn't get any decent accuracy out of them. Laying them in your hand or standing on the bench you could see a difference with your eye, so QC isn't top priority. I called them and the guy at Remington told me to not expect the same consistency as premium jacketed bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 When did you buy them? The 2015 reviews at Midway look very positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Good luck with those Remingtons. Last ones I bought varied quite a bit in weight (as in 3 grains either way)and length. I got to investigating when I couldn't get any decent accuracy out of them. Laying them in your hand or standing on the bench you could see a difference with your eye, so QC isn't top priority. I called them and the guy at Remington told me to not expect the same consistency as premium jacketed bullets. I had the same experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 When did you buy them? The 2015 reviews at Midway look very positive.It's been a few years. I would probably trade money for their Golden Bullets rimfire ammo before their bulk centerfire bullets. Maybe they've improved or I got a bad lot, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruleyoutoo1911 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 check here http://ammunitionstore.com/products/223-rem-55gr-fmj-bullets-224-dia-wolf-performance-4000-piece-case.html Pulled the trigger on these as well. For .0565 cents a piece I figured it was worth a shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahunter12 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 check here http://ammunitionstore.com/products/223-rem-55gr-fmj-bullets-224-dia-wolf-performance-4000-piece-case.html Pulled the trigger on these as well. For .0565 cents a piece I figured it was worth a shot! I have been pleased with the Wolf 55gr FMJ so far. I picked up 1k end of last year to try them out. I was pleased with performace for what I will use them for (training classes, local 3Gun). FedEx says my latest order of 8k will be here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Have you shot them for groups yet? I'd be curious to see what type of 100 yard groups people are averaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsdoug Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I have shot groups with the 55 grain Wolf FMJ's out of a 20 inch Criterion barrel and 16 inch Stretch 16. Both shot around .75 for 5 shots at 100 yards, with TAC and Wolf SRM primers. Outstanding value. The real test will be at 300 yards once I can dig out of 30 inches of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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